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Re: Marchand staying in FLA

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How exactly are they affording this?
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MiamiLaw wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:24 pm
britishblue wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:23 pm Im sorry a 6 year at 37?!

Id be shocked if he plays more than 2 seasons before he is on LTIR.
Didn't the Devils get hammered on the Kovy deal for this?
It was a 17 year deal, with the majority being paid out in 10. That's what led to the year limit on contracts and the recapture penalty if a player retires before it ends.
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zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:08 pm How exactly are they affording this?
They now have ZERO cap space with Marchand signing and they only have 12 fowards signed & 6 defenseman & only 1 goalie
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bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
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They might win 3 more cups…nobody will even care when they have to dismantle it at that point. They might also have a center or two that’s available now for a pretty low price. Know any teams looking for one?
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
It’s cap circumvention when you sign a player below market value to play 3 years longer than any current NHLer.
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This is definitely a contract that even Florida doubts will be met to completion.
Is this the last year deals can be signed under current rules? Is that why Bennet, Ekblad also signed nice long 8 year deals? Feels like Florida will have a lengthy advantage over other teams not in position to do this (either by affordability or players at the right age with expiring contracts).
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He can be a leader and his hockey IQ is quite high. He was born for playoff hockey.
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mph6689new wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:49 pm This is definitely a contract that even Florida doubts will be met to completion.
Is this the last year deals can be signed under current rules? Is that why Bennet, Ekblad also signed nice long 8 year deals? Feels like Florida will have a lengthy advantage over other teams not in position to do this (either by affordability or players at the right age with expiring contracts).
This is the last offseason players can sign 8 year deals, yeah. Though I don’t think that’s particularly weird. Bennett and Ekblad are both prime aged players. Their deals will *expire* at Marchand’s current age.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:45 pm They might win 3 more cups…nobody will even care when they have to dismantle it at that point. They might also have a center or two that’s available now for a pretty low price. Know any teams looking for one?
They wouldn’t trade lundell, would they?
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bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:48 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
It’s cap circumvention when you sign a player below market value to play 3 years longer than any current NHLer.
Nobody forced Marchand to sign the contract. He signed where he wanted to play because he knows he can win there.
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The Average Gatsby wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:59 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:45 pm They might win 3 more cups…nobody will even care when they have to dismantle it at that point. They might also have a center or two that’s available now for a pretty low price. Know any teams looking for one?
They wouldn’t trade lundell, would they?
:idea:
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Re: Marchand staying in FLA

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:59 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:48 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
It’s cap circumvention when you sign a player below market value to play 3 years longer than any current NHLer.
Nobody forced Marchand to sign the contract. He signed where he wanted to play because he knows he can win there.
Marchand gets paid the same either way. Why would he have to be forced? The point is that Florida gets around the cap by paying him less now than other teams would have, knowing there is little chance he’ll actually play the full length and they can LTIR him at the end.
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bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 18:04 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:59 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:48 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
It’s cap circumvention when you sign a player below market value to play 3 years longer than any current NHLer.
Nobody forced Marchand to sign the contract. He signed where he wanted to play because he knows he can win there.
Marchand gets paid the same either way. Why would he have to be forced? The point is that Florida gets around the cap by paying him less now than other teams would have to knowing there is little chance he’ll actually play the full thing and they can LTIR him at the end.
What if Marchand signed 6 years with a different team as a UFA?
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zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 18:05 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 18:04 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:59 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:48 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:41 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 17:36 pm
zamadoo wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:57 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 30 Jun 2025 16:50 pm Lol signing a 37 year old to a 6 year deal. This is so obviously [nonsense], but nothing will happen.
What's the problem? Why does something need to happen?
Because Ryan Suter was the oldest skater in the NHL this year at 39-40 years old. Marchand is supposed to play until he’s 43? Please. This is cap circumvention.
Cap circumvention? That’s called keeping the most important players for another cup run. That’s how you run a team.
It’s cap circumvention when you sign a player below market value to play 3 years longer than any current NHLer.
Nobody forced Marchand to sign the contract. He signed where he wanted to play because he knows he can win there.
Marchand gets paid the same either way. Why would he have to be forced? The point is that Florida gets around the cap by paying him less now than other teams would have to knowing there is little chance he’ll actually play the full thing and they can LTIR him at the end.
What if Marchand signed 6 years with a different team as a UFA?
I would call it cap circumvention.
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