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leedog68 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 09:42 am Maybe they should trade him for someone slower if they cannot find someone faster than Schenn to play with Kyrou? That makes about as much sense.
I agree—I'd prefer to keep Kyrou, but it’s fair to question his impact in the playoffs. He was exposed during the series against Winnipeg, particularly under pressure. It’s hard to imagine him thriving in a series against a team like Florida, where the forecheck is relentless. In that type of matchup, his game risks becoming a liability, as he could be neutralized and leave a major gap in the lineup.

What I’d really like to see is the Blues investing in offseason development for Kyrou—someone who can help him refine his game without compromising his speed and skill. We don’t need him to become a bruiser or live in the trenches, but we do need him to be more engaged on the boards, fight through checks, and hold onto the puck longer. If he can add that layer to his game, it would go a long way toward making him a consistent playoff contributor.
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If Kyrou gets the Blues another Dman you have to make that trade. Remember, this is the team that was basically a 12 game winning streak and .500 the rest of the time AND the team that gave up a metric shittonne of 6on5 goals against...you can't go into this season with basically the same D run by Faulk. Faulk needs to go, but he'll bring nothing of value in return...Kyrou will.
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MN saw the one thing I saw which is that we've known a long time about the NTC July 1.

So the "rocketing" is because he's hearing talk of it from real GMs. But to me Kyrou for Dobson is a no brainer if it really and truly is available.
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smilinjoefission wrote: 25 Jun 2025 09:52 am If Kyrou gets the Blues another Dman you have to make that trade. Remember, this is the team that was basically a 12 game winning streak and .500 the rest of the time AND the team that gave up a metric shittonne of 6on5 goals against...you can't go into this season with basically the same D run by Faulk. Faulk needs to go, but he'll bring nothing of value in return...Kyrou will.
I look at it in terms of the future. Kinda laughed at the remark that the Blues aren't young, but that is very true of our defense (and goalie).

Faulk, Leddy, and Fowler are aging and expiring. I do think Fowler can be a good player for us for another 1-3 seasons, but then we have a massive hole on the right side as an organization. Even if we draft a good RHD, we have years before he or Jiricek crack the lineup at all. Also worth noting that Parayko is getting up there.

Meanwhile, we have a plethora of forwards who will be entering the lineup over the next 1-2 years, including Snuggerudd who played on the top line in the playoffs and did well.

I just think if you have a chance to get a top-4 RHD (or someone like Power), it's worth robbing peter to pay paul at this point for the Blues. It is more of a hockey trade in this sense.
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Rather than Dobson, if you are thinking about dangling Kyrou for a D man, look to LA and Brandt Clarke plus. Holland is putty in Armey's hand.
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zamadoo wrote: 25 Jun 2025 08:33 am
Frank Underwood wrote: 25 Jun 2025 08:08 am “ The Blues are a middling team that aren’t young, and this may be one way to continue to turn over the roster.”

What an incredibly lazy way to characterize the Blues. I’d call them one of the most exciting young, up & coming teams in the league.
It's a risk (counting on Snugg/Bolduc/etc.), but I like the idea of a deal centered around Kyrou and Dobson. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved, but Dobson+Pageau for Kyrou+Faulk/Leddy could make sense.
If, and it’s a big if, the Blues are in on Dobson, I agree that Kyrou would be the centerpiece. It is a risk and MANY on here and HFBoards are not on board with that. I could see it being similar to what you said though, but I think it would take a bit more if we are sending back a salary. For example:

To Isles: Kyrou, Jiricek or 2025 1st, Leddy
To Blues: Dobson (extended) and Pageau

If Dobson isn’t extended, no freaking way the Blues or others trade a haul for him.
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Kyrou is among the best and worst Blues players I have ever followed.

I cannot stomach another seven game series where his fragile heart and soul make him worse than invisible for the seventh game.

If he gets us a solid D man… for the love of all things sacred, rip the blue note off his sweater.

Do people forget what style of play wins playoff series? It ain’t the style he might ever buy into. How long of a rope do you give a heartless p#ssy who is 6 foot tall and almost 200 pounds?
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:04 am Kyrou is among the best and worst Blues players I have ever followed.

I cannot stomach another seven game series where his fragile heart and soul make him worse than invisible for the seventh game.

If he gets us a solid D man… for the love of all things sacred, rip the blue note off his sweater.

Do people forget what style of play wins playoff series? It ain’t the style he might ever buy into. How long of a rope do you give a heartless p#ssy who is 6 foot tall and almost 200 pounds?
I dont know man i get the sentiment i know the Jets series Kyrou got knocked pretty good but Kyrou scores in the playoffs just like he scores in the regular season, 30 goal clip. Better be sure what we get in return because trading Kyrou could take the Blues out of playoff contention by having a very weak offense
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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 10:49 am
zamadoo wrote: 25 Jun 2025 08:33 am
Frank Underwood wrote: 25 Jun 2025 08:08 am “ The Blues are a middling team that aren’t young, and this may be one way to continue to turn over the roster.”

What an incredibly lazy way to characterize the Blues. I’d call them one of the most exciting young, up & coming teams in the league.
It's a risk (counting on Snugg/Bolduc/etc.), but I like the idea of a deal centered around Kyrou and Dobson. Maybe a 3rd team gets involved, but Dobson+Pageau for Kyrou+Faulk/Leddy could make sense.
If, and it’s a big if, the Blues are in on Dobson, I agree that Kyrou would be the centerpiece. It is a risk and MANY on here and HFBoards are not on board with that. I could see it being similar to what you said though, but I think it would take a bit more if we are sending back a salary. For example:

To Isles: Kyrou, Jiricek or 2025 1st, Leddy
To Blues: Dobson (extended) and Pageau

If Dobson isn’t extended, no freaking way the Blues or others trade a haul for him.
Good points. You want to hope that people are thinking this all the way through. As a hope he signs this wouldn't be worth it in any way.

Pageau for Leddy hurts the Blues cap situation as well adding an over 30 one year rental. At the asset list it would take to get him I am not sure Dobson would be the key piece a lot of people think he would be.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:08 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:04 am Kyrou is among the best and worst Blues players I have ever followed.

I cannot stomach another seven game series where his fragile heart and soul make him worse than invisible for the seventh game.

If he gets us a solid D man… for the love of all things sacred, rip the blue note off his sweater.

Do people forget what style of play wins playoff series? It ain’t the style he might ever buy into. How long of a rope do you give a heartless p#ssy who is 6 foot tall and almost 200 pounds?
I dont know man i get the sentiment i know the Jets series Kyrou got knocked pretty good but Kyrou scores in the playoffs just like he scores in the regular season, 30 goal clip. Better be sure what we get in return because trading Kyrou could take the Blues out of playoff contention by having a very weak offense
One thing you never want to show in the playoffs is heartless lack of motivation and low hockey IQ.
Kyrou can occasionally find open space and fire off his deadly shot.
That is wonderful.
The rest of the 59 and a half minutes…. He is determinedly uninvolved.
He will not do the things that help teams win Stanley Cups.
His career playoff assist totals tell that story better than any words I could type….

Kyrou is the anti-playoff player.
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I have to ask. If all of the Kyrou isn't as good as he seems and is the worst ever in the playoffs was true. Why would the Islanders or anyone want him in a trade? :?
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dr0zombie wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:19 am I have to ask. If all of the Kyrou isn't as good as he seems and is the worst ever in the playoffs was true. Why would the Islanders or anyone want him in a trade? :?
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dr0zombie wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:19 am I have to ask. If all of the Kyrou isn't as good as he seems and is the worst ever in the playoffs was true. Why would the Islanders or anyone want him in a trade? :?
Agreed that it hurts his overall value. With that said, he’s locked in at what will be a good contract value for a perennial 30g, 40a “regular season player. Isles eventually need to make the playoffs again, which is where some value resides. I do agree that he is very timid come crunch time. He has the physical tools to play a sturdy game, meaning battle for pucks. Don’t care if he ever throws a hit, but at least battle. That is where his heart of desire or whatever you want to call it lacks. I think we would have to add a bit to get a player like Dobson for the very reason you stated. I think in the end, he remains a Blue.
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dr0zombie wrote: 25 Jun 2025 11:19 am I have to ask. If all of the Kyrou isn't as good as he seems and is the worst ever in the playoffs was true. Why would the Islanders or anyone want him in a trade? :?
Not every GM is Doug Armstrong level of savvy.
His regular season numbers will blind folks who don’t watch him closely.

With Kyrou’s all world physical skills, how many assists should be he have in his career playoff record?
He has played in 28 playoff games.
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There's room for a Jordan Kyrou on ANY roster in the league, no matter his metrics or intangibles.

Sure I wish there was more could say that of many players but I love the guy and have supported him since he came here.

Having said that, knowing the near future of this franchise's player and prospects, I would move him for the RIGHT stud D man BUT that player has to be no doubt risk free......same as I view JK.
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Love to see us move out Buchnevich and Kyrou shortly.... would have to replace the 56gls.
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