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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:57 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:26 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Completely different situations. O’Reilly was not a pending UFA at the trade deadline when we traded for him. When we trade him and the others he was going to be a pending UFA.

You are not going to get a top young player for a rental unless it’s an elite game changer.

We will need to see what the draft pics we received in those trades turn into. I have no regrets on the Thompson trade. I would do it 100 out of a 100 times.
Some teams deal their star players while they still have trade value. The Blues keep their players until their trade value diminishes. We gave up our players and got nothing in return — thus far —- And that is the bottom line.

Tage Thompson was traded in 2018 for a player who was not on an expiring contract.

The Blues did their mini-fire sale in 2023 with players on expiring contracts. Those players are now just reaching the NHL. It’s a pretty weak argument to try to compare the situations since Tage Thompson had a five year head start on the draft picks and really a seven year head start as he was drafted in 2016.
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The #2 guy we drafted in that same year--Kyrou--he has outperformed TT so far. Draft picks are currency. TT got us King O'Reilly--who got us a cup and rebuilt our team.
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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Stlcardsblues wrote: 23 Jun 2025 13:01 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:57 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:26 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Completely different situations. O’Reilly was not a pending UFA at the trade deadline when we traded for him. When we trade him and the others he was going to be a pending UFA.

You are not going to get a top young player for a rental unless it’s an elite game changer.

We will need to see what the draft pics we received in those trades turn into. I have no regrets on the Thompson trade. I would do it 100 out of a 100 times.
Some teams deal their star players while they still have trade value. The Blues keep their players until their trade value diminishes. We gave up our players and got nothing in return — thus far —- And that is the bottom line.

Tage Thompson was traded in 2018 for a player who was not on an expiring contract.

The Blues did their mini-fire sale in 2023 with players on expiring contracts. Those players are now just reaching the NHL. It’s a pretty weak argument to try to compare the situations since Tage Thompson had a five year head start on the draft picks and really a seven year head start as he was drafted in 2016.
Sure. Maybe our young NHL player will arise yet, but maybe they won’t. Have you noticed that not one person that replied is confident that that will hapoen for one of the prospects that we recieved? Why the lack of confidence?
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 23 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Holloway.

The draft pick capital and cap space made that possible.

Done.

GTFOH
It’s amazing the degree to which fans will make up excuses for Army.
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 23 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Holloway.

The draft pick capital and cap space made that possible.

Done.

GTFOH
It’s amazing the degree to which fans will make up excuses for Army.
Yeah how dare Army acquire a 60+ point 23 year old.

You need to find yourself a girl mate. You would be significantly less miserable.
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 23 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Holloway.

The draft pick capital and cap space made that possible.

Done.

GTFOH
It’s amazing the degree to which fans will make up excuses for Army.
Your entire argument boils down to “how come the guys we picked in 2023 and 2024 aren’t performing as good as this other guy that was drafted in 2016?”

You’re completely ignoring 7-8 years of development time there, buddy… We won’t truly know what we have for another 4ish years probably.

And again, you’re comparing a trade where the player had 5 years left on his contract to a trade where that same player had a couple months left on his contract. ROR was worth much less as an asset 5 years later…
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 23 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Holloway.

The draft pick capital and cap space made that possible.

Done.

GTFOH
It’s amazing the degree to which fans will make up excuses for Army.
It's amazing the degree to which a fan [ol' smellie himself] will criticize ANYTHING Army does!
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
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Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
How are you determining the Blues "pulled nothing from our top cup players"

Detroit acquires Husso for '22 3rd round pick (Kaskimaki)
NYR acquire Mikkola/Tarasenko '24 3rd rnd (Jecho), '23 1st rnd pick (Lindstein)
Sammy Blais, 2nd rnd pick to NYR = Buchnevich
TOR acquires Noel Acciari for '23 1st rnd pick (Stenberg); '24 2nd (Lukas Fischer), Gaudette, Abramov
LV acquires Barbie for Dean
Montreal acquires Jake Allen/'22 7th for '20 3rd rnd pick (Dylan Peterson) '20 7th rnd pick (Noah Beck)

The Blues won a cup, covid pretty much costs the Blues a run at at least one more title. Aging players are cashed in for picks, a couple down years and the franchise has regained traction with great young players. Not sure what there to complain about
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
You’re defending a guy who starts at least a thread a day on the same topic by telling everyone else “it’s not that serious”.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:25 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
How are you determining the Blues "pulled nothing from our top cup players"

Detroit acquires Husso for '22 3rd round pick (Kaskimaki)
NYR acquire Mikkola/Tarasenko '24 3rd rnd (Jecho), '23 1st rnd pick (Lindstein)
Sammy Blais, 2nd rnd pick to NYR = Buchnevich
TOR acquires Noel Acciari for '23 1st rnd pick (Stenberg); '24 2nd (Lukas Fischer), Gaudette, Abramov
LV acquires Barbie for Dean
Montreal acquires Jake Allen/'22 7th for '20 3rd rnd pick (Dylan Peterson) '20 7th rnd pick (Noah Beck)

The Blues won a cup, covid pretty much costs the Blues a run at at least one more title. Aging players are cashed in for picks, a couple down years and the franchise has regained traction with great young players. Not sure what there to complain about
These guys don’t comprehend development time. Dean should be a Top 6 center already as good as Thompson even though he’s 22. Stenberg and Lindstein are worth nothing even though they’re just 20. It’s not even worth the conversation.
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BudOnTap wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:37 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
You’re defending a guy who starts at least a thread a day on the same topic by telling everyone else “it’s not that serious”.
Bud I'm not defending him.
It may be you and other vs him. But I just want to respond to ones opinion. Not get caught up on who is a fan and of who isn't.

As far as all the trades named by Harry. Obviously you're just looking at one side of all those trades, you haven't followed the trade line of any of the draft picks that we traded off to see what came of them and what a team did with whatever they became.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 14:18 pm
Stlcardsblues wrote: 23 Jun 2025 13:01 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:57 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 23 Jun 2025 10:26 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 22 Jun 2025 10:11 am The Blues gave up prospect Tage Thompson to get ROR for their Stanley Cup run.

The Blues then lost Pietrangelo, ROR, Tarasenko, Barbashev, and Schwarz to other teams for their playoff runs.

Where is our young "Tage Thompson" in return for all of those players that we gave up?

Can somebody ask Army?
Completely different situations. O’Reilly was not a pending UFA at the trade deadline when we traded for him. When we trade him and the others he was going to be a pending UFA.

You are not going to get a top young player for a rental unless it’s an elite game changer.

We will need to see what the draft pics we received in those trades turn into. I have no regrets on the Thompson trade. I would do it 100 out of a 100 times.
Some teams deal their star players while they still have trade value. The Blues keep their players until their trade value diminishes. We gave up our players and got nothing in return — thus far —- And that is the bottom line.

Tage Thompson was traded in 2018 for a player who was not on an expiring contract.

The Blues did their mini-fire sale in 2023 with players on expiring contracts. Those players are now just reaching the NHL. It’s a pretty weak argument to try to compare the situations since Tage Thompson had a five year head start on the draft picks and really a seven year head start as he was drafted in 2016.
Sure. Maybe our young NHL player will arise yet, but maybe they won’t. Have you noticed that not one person that replied is confident that that will hapoen for one of the prospects that we recieved? Why the lack of confidence?
As usual, when I put actual numbers in front of you, you deflect and spin instead of addressing the point.

Same as when I asked you what your plan was to get a top five pick.
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bluetunehead wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:45 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:25 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
How are you determining the Blues "pulled nothing from our top cup players"

Detroit acquires Husso for '22 3rd round pick (Kaskimaki)
NYR acquire Mikkola/Tarasenko '24 3rd rnd (Jecho), '23 1st rnd pick (Lindstein)
Sammy Blais, 2nd rnd pick to NYR = Buchnevich
TOR acquires Noel Acciari for '23 1st rnd pick (Stenberg); '24 2nd (Lukas Fischer), Gaudette, Abramov
LV acquires Barbie for Dean
Montreal acquires Jake Allen/'22 7th for '20 3rd rnd pick (Dylan Peterson) '20 7th rnd pick (Noah Beck)

The Blues won a cup, covid pretty much costs the Blues a run at at least one more title. Aging players are cashed in for picks, a couple down years and the franchise has regained traction with great young players. Not sure what there to complain about
These guys don’t comprehend development time. Dean should be a Top 6 center already as good as Thompson even though he’s 22. Stenberg and Lindstein are worth nothing even though they’re just 20. It’s not even worth the conversation.
Yep, moronic if they are sincere but that's probably not the case just moving their lips to hear themselves talk and stir it up.
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But this weed guy is right.

Lol multi screen names how weird
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Re: Where is our Tage Thompson?

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Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Jun 2025 18:38 pm
bluetunehead wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:45 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:25 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 23 Jun 2025 15:00 pm Probably shouldn't jump in.

But this weed guy is right. We pulled nothing from our top cup players.

I can't think of any trade were we gave little and gained so much. But everyone of our top player were about given away.


Didn't name the Blais trade because posters are judging trades by what happened with a pick, instead of just the pick. So,
The second we traded with Blais. Turn into Andrew Copp. Who scored 18pts in 16 games and a vital part of the rangers division finals playoff run with another 16pts. And a 6'7 center Dylan Roobroeck with high potential, who hits, fights, passes, thinks, he led hartford in goals last year his first there. So while I haven't looked up every trade or the trade line of every pick we traded. I. guessing that Bunch/Blaise trade might be a loss when all said and done. At least the way some are being judged. Odd way to judge a trade.

Side note. it's crazy how much some of you will fight, call names, and be kinda vile, to prove Army's the greatest at every aspect of the game of hockey. It's not that serious.
How are you determining the Blues "pulled nothing from our top cup players"

Detroit acquires Husso for '22 3rd round pick (Kaskimaki)
NYR acquire Mikkola/Tarasenko '24 3rd rnd (Jecho), '23 1st rnd pick (Lindstein)
Sammy Blais, 2nd rnd pick to NYR = Buchnevich
TOR acquires Noel Acciari for '23 1st rnd pick (Stenberg); '24 2nd (Lukas Fischer), Gaudette, Abramov
LV acquires Barbie for Dean
Montreal acquires Jake Allen/'22 7th for '20 3rd rnd pick (Dylan Peterson) '20 7th rnd pick (Noah Beck)

The Blues won a cup, covid pretty much costs the Blues a run at at least one more title. Aging players are cashed in for picks, a couple down years and the franchise has regained traction with great young players. Not sure what there to complain about
These guys don’t comprehend development time. Dean should be a Top 6 center already as good as Thompson even though he’s 22. Stenberg and Lindstein are worth nothing even though they’re just 20. It’s not even worth the conversation.
Yep, moronic if they are sincere but that's probably not the case just moving their lips to hear themselves talk and stir it up.
One more point to ponder…
If we end up not getting any prospect with NHL value in letting all of our star cup players walk—then why did we let them go?

Wasn’t that the whole point of it?
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