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Re: Blues rumors?

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:12 pm
Corban84 wrote: 22 Jun 2025 12:54 pm "doing fine". Schenn is a weakness at 2c, at 3c he is adequate for now.

I would say this is a need over defense. We don't know if DD will pan out, things are pointing in the right direction, but id rather have too many centers than not enough.
so what they're looking for in a 2c:
decent on FO's
200' 2 way game
some physicality
can play special teams
decent skater
stop gap till DD arrives

this describes Schenn... no, he's not the long term solution, as has been noted. he fits what they need NOW
That is true BUT we have 3 full lines of top 6 wingers and should be looking for a 3rd top 6 center to facilitate that if feasible
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Re: Blues rumors?

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skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:52 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:12 pm
Corban84 wrote: 22 Jun 2025 12:54 pm "doing fine". Schenn is a weakness at 2c, at 3c he is adequate for now.

I would say this is a need over defense. We don't know if DD will pan out, things are pointing in the right direction, but id rather have too many centers than not enough.
so what they're looking for in a 2c:
decent on FO's
200' 2 way game
some physicality
can play special teams
decent skater
stop gap till DD arrives

this describes Schenn... no, he's not the long term solution, as has been noted. he fits what they need NOW
That is true BUT we have 3 full lines of top 6 wingers and should be looking for a 3rd top 6 center to facilitate that if feasible
I think it's more likely they're looking for a middle 6 center, which should be easier (but not easy) to obtain.

there's a rumor out that NJ might be looking to move on from Mercer. I haven't watched them play much, so no idea if there would be interest or not
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Re: Blues rumors?

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:52 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:12 pm
Corban84 wrote: 22 Jun 2025 12:54 pm "doing fine". Schenn is a weakness at 2c, at 3c he is adequate for now.

I would say this is a need over defense. We don't know if DD will pan out, things are pointing in the right direction, but id rather have too many centers than not enough.
so what they're looking for in a 2c:
decent on FO's
200' 2 way game
some physicality
can play special teams
decent skater
stop gap till DD arrives

this describes Schenn... no, he's not the long term solution, as has been noted. he fits what they need NOW
That is true BUT we have 3 full lines of top 6 wingers and should be looking for a 3rd top 6 center to facilitate that if feasible
I think it's more likely they're looking for a middle 6 center, which should be easier (but not easy) to obtain.

there's a rumor out that NJ might be looking to move on from Mercer. I haven't watched them play much, so no idea if there would be interest or not
I am 100% sure the Blues are looking for the best center they can find on a short term deal and A price they can afford. They might settle for a 3rd line center but that is not ideal.
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Re: Blues rumors?

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skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 14:01 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:52 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:12 pm
Corban84 wrote: 22 Jun 2025 12:54 pm "doing fine". Schenn is a weakness at 2c, at 3c he is adequate for now.

I would say this is a need over defense. We don't know if DD will pan out, things are pointing in the right direction, but id rather have too many centers than not enough.
so what they're looking for in a 2c:
decent on FO's
200' 2 way game
some physicality
can play special teams
decent skater
stop gap till DD arrives

this describes Schenn... no, he's not the long term solution, as has been noted. he fits what they need NOW
That is true BUT we have 3 full lines of top 6 wingers and should be looking for a 3rd top 6 center to facilitate that if feasible
I think it's more likely they're looking for a middle 6 center, which should be easier (but not easy) to obtain.

there's a rumor out that NJ might be looking to move on from Mercer. I haven't watched them play much, so no idea if there would be interest or not
I am 100% sure the Blues are looking for the best center they can find on a short term deal and A price they can afford. They might settle for a 3rd line center but that is not ideal.
well, anyone higher than that is gonna pass my puke point. I don't wanna trade any of our top 9 wingers. MAYBE Kyrou in a bigger deal, but that's about it
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Re: Blues rumors?

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 14:04 pm
skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 14:01 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
skilles wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:52 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 22 Jun 2025 13:12 pm
Corban84 wrote: 22 Jun 2025 12:54 pm "doing fine". Schenn is a weakness at 2c, at 3c he is adequate for now.

I would say this is a need over defense. We don't know if DD will pan out, things are pointing in the right direction, but id rather have too many centers than not enough.
so what they're looking for in a 2c:
decent on FO's
200' 2 way game
some physicality
can play special teams
decent skater
stop gap till DD arrives

this describes Schenn... no, he's not the long term solution, as has been noted. he fits what they need NOW
That is true BUT we have 3 full lines of top 6 wingers and should be looking for a 3rd top 6 center to facilitate that if feasible
I think it's more likely they're looking for a middle 6 center, which should be easier (but not easy) to obtain.

there's a rumor out that NJ might be looking to move on from Mercer. I haven't watched them play much, so no idea if there would be interest or not
I am 100% sure the Blues are looking for the best center they can find on a short term deal and A price they can afford. They might settle for a 3rd line center but that is not ideal.
well, anyone higher than that is gonna pass my puke point. I don't wanna trade any of our top 9 wingers. MAYBE Kyrou in a bigger deal, but that's about it
Oh I wouldn't do that but there might be some creative options out there. Like taking on an aging player in the last couple years of their contract that other teams are ready to move on from.
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Re: Blues rumors?

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Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Jun 2025 05:25 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 21 Jun 2025 17:53 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 14:07 pm
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 11:21 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 10:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:36 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:27 am I heard a rumour that Army can't pull off a deal for a young 2c
And that's why we are again(year 5) talking about old guys we hope can fill 3rd line center.

We are not a small contender with Schenn at 2c. If we are not going to build a cup contender. We need a lottery pick next year.
Pray tell. Where did this “rumor” come from?

So it’s all or nothing? Cup or Lottery? We were 1.6 seconds away from round 2 with last year’s team and looking at how things turned out it would have been interesting to see how it would have played out with us in the mix. You don’t just bag that and hope for a lotto pick greenie.

That rumour has been going around. I think it will be on his statue....

Cup or lottery, makes a good slogan. But if we are not building for a cup. We need to be looking at the future. A lottery in next year's draft sets the future up to being contenders. Instead of riding the bubble for another old guys no move contract. We need to keep building with youth. Whether that's a young center traded for, or a elite out of next year's draft.

About those two seconds. Let talk 2 minutes. I wouldn't be bragging about losing against probably the worse playoff goalie, at the time.
We wasn't, aren't, won't be a second round team. We are a bubble team that can go as far as Binny can take us.
Ah the dreaded “going around”. No actual link as I suspected.
Even if he doesn’t score one this offseason, I suspect that it would be because once teams have one they’re loathe to let them go.
Binny took us all the way to a Cup so I don’t see round 2 as a particular challenge.
Ok, I’ve fed you enough, back under your bridge.


You need a link for something we have lived. Too funny.


Let me guess. The guy under the bridge, along with the rest of those that see clearly. Have been right each year about what this team is, and those who are not trolls have been wrong.

Weve needed a 2c for years. Why has Army not got one.
Why can other teams trade for young talent. Yet we can only trade young talent for a hard working 200' third line old guy.
We've needed one for about 2 seasons. 3 years ago it was Thomas. Last off season the market for 2nd line centers in UFA was insane and a decent amount of those contracts are already looking bad. Hell the Avs just gave 34 year old Brock Nelson 8 mil a year, that should tell you everything.

Right now the hardest positions on the ice to fill are 2nd line center and RHD. If he just fills one of those this off season we'll be in a much better position.
Schenn had 50 pts last year he's the 2C no doubt unless Army comes up with someone better
Could he do another season as the 2nd line center? I mean sure but it wouldn't be ideal.

He doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with Kyrou and Holloway. He'd be a much better fit as he 3rd line center.
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Re: Blues rumors?

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TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Jun 2025 15:14 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Jun 2025 05:25 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 21 Jun 2025 17:53 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 14:07 pm
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 11:21 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 10:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:36 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:27 am I heard a rumour that Army can't pull off a deal for a young 2c
And that's why we are again(year 5) talking about old guys we hope can fill 3rd line center.

We are not a small contender with Schenn at 2c. If we are not going to build a cup contender. We need a lottery pick next year.
Pray tell. Where did this “rumor” come from?

So it’s all or nothing? Cup or Lottery? We were 1.6 seconds away from round 2 with last year’s team and looking at how things turned out it would have been interesting to see how it would have played out with us in the mix. You don’t just bag that and hope for a lotto pick greenie.

That rumour has been going around. I think it will be on his statue....

Cup or lottery, makes a good slogan. But if we are not building for a cup. We need to be looking at the future. A lottery in next year's draft sets the future up to being contenders. Instead of riding the bubble for another old guys no move contract. We need to keep building with youth. Whether that's a young center traded for, or a elite out of next year's draft.

About those two seconds. Let talk 2 minutes. I wouldn't be bragging about losing against probably the worse playoff goalie, at the time.
We wasn't, aren't, won't be a second round team. We are a bubble team that can go as far as Binny can take us.
Ah the dreaded “going around”. No actual link as I suspected.
Even if he doesn’t score one this offseason, I suspect that it would be because once teams have one they’re loathe to let them go.
Binny took us all the way to a Cup so I don’t see round 2 as a particular challenge.
Ok, I’ve fed you enough, back under your bridge.


You need a link for something we have lived. Too funny.


Let me guess. The guy under the bridge, along with the rest of those that see clearly. Have been right each year about what this team is, and those who are not trolls have been wrong.

Weve needed a 2c for years. Why has Army not got one.
Why can other teams trade for young talent. Yet we can only trade young talent for a hard working 200' third line old guy.
We've needed one for about 2 seasons. 3 years ago it was Thomas. Last off season the market for 2nd line centers in UFA was insane and a decent amount of those contracts are already looking bad. Hell the Avs just gave 34 year old Brock Nelson 8 mil a year, that should tell you everything.

Right now the hardest positions on the ice to fill are 2nd line center and RHD. If he just fills one of those this off season we'll be in a much better position.
Schenn had 50 pts last year he's the 2C no doubt unless Army comes up with someone better
Could he do another season as the 2nd line center? I mean sure but it wouldn't be ideal.

He doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with Kyrou and Holloway. He'd be a much better fit as he 3rd line center.
Yep I agree with that i think everyones saying IF Army can land a legit 2C i guess thats a 50+ pt guy with a manageable term and salary then thats great. For me i skeptical that it can be accomplished. Whats the term for Granlund, 5 yrs?
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Re: Blues rumors?

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Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Jun 2025 11:24 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 22 Jun 2025 15:14 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Jun 2025 05:25 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 21 Jun 2025 17:53 pm
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 14:07 pm
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 11:21 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 10:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:36 am
Cahokanut wrote: 21 Jun 2025 09:27 am I heard a rumour that Army can't pull off a deal for a young 2c
And that's why we are again(year 5) talking about old guys we hope can fill 3rd line center.

We are not a small contender with Schenn at 2c. If we are not going to build a cup contender. We need a lottery pick next year.
Pray tell. Where did this “rumor” come from?

So it’s all or nothing? Cup or Lottery? We were 1.6 seconds away from round 2 with last year’s team and looking at how things turned out it would have been interesting to see how it would have played out with us in the mix. You don’t just bag that and hope for a lotto pick greenie.

That rumour has been going around. I think it will be on his statue....

Cup or lottery, makes a good slogan. But if we are not building for a cup. We need to be looking at the future. A lottery in next year's draft sets the future up to being contenders. Instead of riding the bubble for another old guys no move contract. We need to keep building with youth. Whether that's a young center traded for, or a elite out of next year's draft.

About those two seconds. Let talk 2 minutes. I wouldn't be bragging about losing against probably the worse playoff goalie, at the time.
We wasn't, aren't, won't be a second round team. We are a bubble team that can go as far as Binny can take us.
Ah the dreaded “going around”. No actual link as I suspected.
Even if he doesn’t score one this offseason, I suspect that it would be because once teams have one they’re loathe to let them go.
Binny took us all the way to a Cup so I don’t see round 2 as a particular challenge.
Ok, I’ve fed you enough, back under your bridge.


You need a link for something we have lived. Too funny.


Let me guess. The guy under the bridge, along with the rest of those that see clearly. Have been right each year about what this team is, and those who are not trolls have been wrong.

Weve needed a 2c for years. Why has Army not got one.
Why can other teams trade for young talent. Yet we can only trade young talent for a hard working 200' third line old guy.
We've needed one for about 2 seasons. 3 years ago it was Thomas. Last off season the market for 2nd line centers in UFA was insane and a decent amount of those contracts are already looking bad. Hell the Avs just gave 34 year old Brock Nelson 8 mil a year, that should tell you everything.

Right now the hardest positions on the ice to fill are 2nd line center and RHD. If he just fills one of those this off season we'll be in a much better position.
Schenn had 50 pts last year he's the 2C no doubt unless Army comes up with someone better
Could he do another season as the 2nd line center? I mean sure but it wouldn't be ideal.

He doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with Kyrou and Holloway. He'd be a much better fit as he 3rd line center.
Yep I agree with that i think everyones saying IF Army can land a legit 2C i guess thats a 50+ pt guy with a manageable term and salary then thats great. For me i skeptical that it can be accomplished. Whats the term for Granlund, 5 yrs?
Those 5 years sound more like an anchor than a life raft.

When it comes to the players we know to be available I'm beginning to think the Blues do have an option to sit tight and see how it goes. Between term and AAV and their plans for the very near future I hope they don't force some kind of deal on the roster.

Maybe DA can pull a rabbit out.
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