Attendance currently 30,000 per game - big homestand upcoming

[illiniriles]

Hi JDW! You are one of those good baseball men that I was talking about. And in answer to your question: yes, to all those things you mentioned. A good example of a DH that wasn't that complete of a ball player was Big Papi for Boston. He almost single-handedly destroyed the Redbirds in what was it '04? And now is a HOFer. He's an icon in Boston and by all accounts genuinely a terrific guy. But if you'll remember, in that series, everything he hit was a frozen rope. Even the foul balls. It just proves the point that not everyone that is using (allegedly) is a jag. And sure, there is a place for the DH. In my opinion that is the American League. Lastly, let me just add that at least Big Mac had the class to retire leaving $10 million per on the table. I would have been spending every day in the trainer's room and dragging my hurting (donkey) out there hitting home runs on one leg until I collected every last dollar I had on my contract. Oh well, there I go rambling again, like the narrator in "The Big Lebowski". You got any of that good sasparilla?

[Midrange Jay]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are outperforming management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

[ScotchMIrish]

Hi JDW! You are one of those good baseball men that I was talking about. And in answer to your question: yes, to all those things you mentioned. A good example of a DH that wasn't that complete of a ball player was Big Papi for Boston. He almost single-handedly destroyed the Redbirds in what was it '04? And now is a HOFer. He's an icon in Boston and by all accounts genuinely a terrific guy. But if you'll remember, in that series, everything he hit was a frozen rope. Even the foul balls. It just proves the point that not everyone that is using (allegedly) is a jag. And sure, there is a place for the DH. In my opinion that is the American League. Lastly, let me just add that at least Big Mac had the class to retire leaving $10 million per on the table. I would have been spending every day in the trainer's room and dragging my hurting (donkey) out there hitting home runs on one leg until I collected every last dollar I had on my contract. Oh well, there I go rambling again, like the narrator in "The Big Lebowski". You got any of that good sasparilla?

Big Papi was also a roid boy. The let him in but not Rose.

[ScotchMIrish]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

[Midrange Jay]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

I think you were looking at 2024.

[ScotchMIrish]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

I think you were looking at 2024.

Both links show the same thing. St Louis at 11. Boston is 19.

[Midrange Jay]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

I think you were looking at 2024.

Both links show the same thing. St Louis at 11. Boston is 19.

I show 19 for 2025. Boston is 13.

[makesnosense]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Yes I’d expect big crowds.

Get rid of the DH and significantly reduce the number of AL opponents. I'll bet attendance would improve.

I don’t think the DH has anything to do with it. I mean was attendance ever an issue for the AL all the years that just they had it?

The DH has nothing to do with it. The same people who say they won’t go because of the DH are the ones who also say they won’t go because downtown is a post-apocalyptic hellscape.

This 'Moran' never shuts up about the DH...doesn't watch any games and posts all the [fork]ing time...he can't be that stupid.

The DH is a travesty

Of course it is. But it’s not going away, and to not go to games because it exists seems silly.

I don't like it but it isn't a show stopper

Do you not like it because it allows more opportunity for guys that can basically only hit but lack the other baseball skills like being good at fielding and base running?

Is that any different than guys who can field but lack the skill of hitting? Not dismissing your question but baseball is populated with many players who only have one or two baseball skills. I prefer the hitting skill over all others.

[ScotchMIrish]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

I think you were looking at 2024.

Both links show the same thing. St Louis at 11. Boston is 19.

I show 19 for 2025. Boston is 13.

I see what it is. I'm looking at active and you are looking at total which included injured. Cardinals have the lowest injured payroll in MLB.

What's interesting comparing attendance numbers is 2017 - Matheny's final full season - we were drawing 42K per game and were 14th in total payroll and 16th in active payroll.

[ScotchMIrish]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Yes I’d expect big crowds.

Get rid of the DH and significantly reduce the number of AL opponents. I'll bet attendance would improve.

I don’t think the DH has anything to do with it. I mean was attendance ever an issue for the AL all the years that just they had it?

The DH has nothing to do with it. The same people who say they won’t go because of the DH are the ones who also say they won’t go because downtown is a post-apocalyptic hellscape.

This 'Moran' never shuts up about the DH...doesn't watch any games and posts all the [fork]ing time...he can't be that stupid.

The DH is a travesty

Of course it is. But it’s not going away, and to not go to games because it exists seems silly.

I don't like it but it isn't a show stopper

Do you not like it because it allows more opportunity for guys that can basically only hit but lack the other baseball skills like being good at fielding and base running?

Is that any different than guys who can field but lack the skill of hitting? Not dismissing your question but baseball is populated with many players who only have one or two baseball skills. I prefer the hitting skill over all others.

I'm curious. What did you think of the '82 Cardinals?

[desertrat23]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Yes I’d expect big crowds.

Get rid of the DH and significantly reduce the number of AL opponents. I'll bet attendance would improve.

I don’t think the DH has anything to do with it. I mean was attendance ever an issue for the AL all the years that just they had it?

The DH has nothing to do with it. The same people who say they won’t go because of the DH are the ones who also say they won’t go because downtown is a post-apocalyptic hellscape.

This 'Moran' never shuts up about the DH...doesn't watch any games and posts all the [fork]ing time...he can't be that stupid.

The DH is a travesty

Of course it is. But it’s not going away, and to not go to games because it exists seems silly.

I don't like it but it isn't a show stopper

Do you not like it because it allows more opportunity for guys that can basically only hit but lack the other baseball skills like being good at fielding and base running?

Is that any different than guys who can field but lack the skill of hitting? Not dismissing your question but baseball is populated with many players who only have one or two baseball skills. I prefer the hitting skill over all others.

I'm curious. What did you think of the '82 Cardinals?

Everybody loved it, but you have to accept that was over 40 years ago. The game changes.

[Midrange Jay]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Our payroll is 19th in the MLB, so we are out performing management’s investment. “See what we have” = F A F O.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

11th in MLB payroll. Where did you get 19th?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll

I think you were looking at 2024.

Both links show the same thing. St Louis at 11. Boston is 19.

I show 19 for 2025. Boston is 13.

I see what it is. I'm looking at active and you are looking at total which included injured. Cardinals have the lowest injured payroll in MLB.

What's interesting comparing attendance numbers is 2017 - Matheny's final full season - we were drawing 42K per game and were 14th in total payroll and 16th in active payroll.

It helps when you consistently win in the playoffs, and don’t cut 20% of the payroll

[makesnosense]

7 games vs central division. 3 Reds and 5 Cubs. I would expect a boost to that number.

By comparison prior to the universal schedule and universal DH Matheny during his tenure averages 42,000 per game 2nd in MLB. Currently 30,000 per game 13th in MLB.

Yes I’d expect big crowds.

Get rid of the DH and significantly reduce the number of AL opponents. I'll bet attendance would improve.

I don’t think the DH has anything to do with it. I mean was attendance ever an issue for the AL all the years that just they had it?

The DH has nothing to do with it. The same people who say they won’t go because of the DH are the ones who also say they won’t go because downtown is a post-apocalyptic hellscape.

This 'Moran' never shuts up about the DH...doesn't watch any games and posts all the [fork]ing time...he can't be that stupid.

The DH is a travesty

Of course it is. But it’s not going away, and to not go to games because it exists seems silly.

I don't like it but it isn't a show stopper

Do you not like it because it allows more opportunity for guys that can basically only hit but lack the other baseball skills like being good at fielding and base running?

Is that any different than guys who can field but lack the skill of hitting? Not dismissing your question but baseball is populated with many players who only have one or two baseball skills. I prefer the hitting skill over all others.

I'm curious. What did you think of the '82 Cardinals?

Good team. Not on my list of favorite 80s teams or the best. The Tigers of the early 80s as well as the Yankees, Phillies, or Orioles. Just my preference.

[WLTFE]

Hi JDW! You are one of those good baseball men that I was talking about. And in answer to your question: yes, to all those things you mentioned. A good example of a DH that wasn't that complete of a ball player was Big Papi for Boston. He almost single-handedly destroyed the Redbirds in what was it '04? And now is a HOFer. He's an icon in Boston and by all accounts genuinely a terrific guy. But if you'll remember, in that series, everything he hit was a frozen rope. Even the foul balls. It just proves the point that not everyone that is using (allegedly) is a jag. And sure, there is a place for the DH. In my opinion that is the American League. Lastly, let me just add that at least Big Mac had the class to retire leaving $10 million per on the table. I would have been spending every day in the trainer's room and dragging my hurting (donkey) out there hitting home runs on one leg until I collected every last dollar I had on my contract. Oh well, there I go rambling again, like the narrator in "The Big Lebowski". You got any of that good sasparilla?

Big Papi was also a roid boy. The let him in but not Rose.

Wasn't he a DH?

[illiniriles]

Sure, but to get him to play at Busch in the Series, he had to put on the lobster claw. And Scotch Irish, of course I was insinuating that he was a PED user, Very obvious in my mind. On the other hand, he was not a surly jerk. Anybody else concerned how Pete Crowe-Armstrong is playing like an MVP this year? Kind of reminds me of how Matt Carpenter looked when you couldn't get him out for about 1/2 a season.