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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Can you throw left-handed?
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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The Nard wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:23 pm Can you throw left-handed?
Yes, but I'm plagued by poor command.
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:29 pm
The Nard wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:23 pm Can you throw left-handed?
Yes, but I'm plagued by poor command.
You sound like a St. Louis Cardinal already!
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
I remember our pitchers giving up only 2 runs in the first 8 innings of both games combined. And our 3-4 hitters who were 1 and 3 in the MVP that year being awful in the 2 games.
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My point is, let's get lined up to do something memorable- something we are proud of. Let's be willing to do the hard things, to be patient, to set a high bar. Let's determine that hoping to contend for one of the wildcard teams is not really contending. Let's build a team for 95 wins and EXPECT to win the division. Teams like that go farther more often in the playoffs.
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
Failures by Nado and Oldy. Poor performers in post season

Many an MLBs fan base would welcome having the horror of being a Cards fan with all their history and long runs of winning records, WS, playoffs, Hall of Fame players
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
Failures by Nado and Oldy. Poor performers in post season

Many an MLBs fan base would welcome having the horror of being a Cards fan with all their history and long runs of winning records, WS, playoffs, Hall of Fame players
We didn't accomplish all of those things by being satisfied with the dog and pony show we've seen for the past 10 years.
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
Failures by Nado and Oldy. Poor performers in post season

Many an MLBs fan base would welcome having the horror of being a Cards fan with all their history and long runs of winning records, WS, playoffs, Hall of Fame players
We didn't accomplish all of those things by being satisfied with the dog and pony show we've seen for the past 10 years.
How does your satisfaction do anything to help or hinder the Cards or their impressive history?

It's a business of entertainment. You are entitled to absolutely nothing.
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:09 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
Failures by Nado and Oldy. Poor performers in post season

Many an MLBs fan base would welcome having the horror of being a Cards fan with all their history and long runs of winning records, WS, playoffs, Hall of Fame players
We didn't accomplish all of those things by being satisfied with the dog and pony show we've seen for the past 10 years.
How does your satisfaction do anything to help or hinder the Cards or their impressive history?

It's a business of entertainment. You are entitled to absolutely nothing.
I didn't communicate that well. By "We", I mean the Cardinals organization, not TB or Scouty. I was citing what I believe to be low organizational standards and performance and settling for mediocrity. If you feel differently about it, that's fine.
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Re: I Would Love To Help

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:15 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:09 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:06 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
Made the playoffs in 2022
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
Failures by Nado and Oldy. Poor performers in post season

Many an MLBs fan base would welcome having the horror of being a Cards fan with all their history and long runs of winning records, WS, playoffs, Hall of Fame players
We didn't accomplish all of those things by being satisfied with the dog and pony show we've seen for the past 10 years.
How does your satisfaction do anything to help or hinder the Cards or their impressive history?

It's a business of entertainment. You are entitled to absolutely nothing.
I didn't communicate that well. By "We", I mean the Cardinals organization, not TB or Scouty. I was citing what I believe to be low organizational standards and performance and settling for mediocrity. If you feel differently about it, that's fine.
I do and your view is equally fine.
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Futuregm2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:48 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 13:38 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:37 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 12:07 pm In my dreams they trade Burleson for a decent prospect or two, but then I wake up and remember Mo hasn't been that bold in like half a decade.
I could see them standing pat to attempt a push for a third wildcard in hopes of giving Mo a good sendoff. Not that I agree. It's possible nothing big
Made the playoffs in 2022
happens until Bloom has full control in November. They have to get out of baseball purgatory.
This would be the most on brand, or in character thing ever. Lethargy, mediocrity, irrelevancy have become the Cardinal Way. This is what the brand has become. We won't make the playoffs AND we won't fix the roster. The perfect Mo legacy. We can remember him that way.
Yes this is like even money odds.
...and were completely irrelevant. No team feared us, no team struggled with us. We were just in the way, and they unceremoniously stepped over us. What do you remember about the 2022 playoffs?
I remember our pitchers giving up only 2 runs in the first 8 innings of both games combined. And our 3-4 hitters who were 1 and 3 in the MVP that year being awful in the 2 games.
Exactly. It was our superstars who disappointed. We were only irrelevant because we couldn't get a little timely hitting. The team that beat us went to the WS. The above description of our helplessness was disingenuous.
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