Cards defeat Sox and Oli in Game 2

[Bad14]

I heard them.say that McGreevy had only four days rest. Didn't want him pitching too many pitches today

He last pitched on Saturday.
https://www.milb.com/en/peoria/news/cro ... t-gwinnett

[rockondlouie]

Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.

Yet we have some in here who still defend him.

Please, please C. Bloom fire him the minute Mo hands you the keys to the POBO office.

[scoutyjones2]

Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.

And they won!

What are you (bleep) about?

They aren't winning perfectly?

[scoutyjones2]

Cards swept a series, on the road, playing in their 6th doubleheader, which is a third of the doubleheaders played in MLB this year.

Oh the horror!

[sikeston bulldog2]

As mentioned in an earlier post, Lil oli makes no decisions on his own. A group of people formulate a game plan hours in advance. In this case, the game plan was probably formulated last night after the postponement.

In his (their) defense, limiting O'Brien's pitches is understandable. He can be used again tomorrow. I doubt Leahy is available. Matz may also be out tomorrow. But pulling McGreevy so early was not a sensible move.

The only thing I can think of is that they did not want him going through the line-up a third time. The problem with the strategy, also taking into account the pitchers used in the first game of the double header, is that if a team uses 6 relief pitchers in one day, it is inevitable 1 of them will have a bad day. It was Leahy today.

McGreevy has been impressive every time he has pitched, including the game he lost to the Dodgers. He appears to be the real deal.

I agree. Using a revolving door of relievers will likely burn you with a least one. You would think a group so dedicated to analytics would understand that simple concept.

The 3rd time through a lineup idea doesn't make sense either. If a pitcher is cruising, leave him in. If he gets in trouble, then act accordingly.

I think the 3rd time through the order data is skewed because modern starters are used to going 5 and being done. So once they get to a certain point in the game (or pitch count), they regress instead of bearing down. The young pitchers haven't been properly taught how to navigate a lineup to get deep in games.

That is exactly correct.

[82birds]

Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.

Yet we have some in here who still defend him.

Please, please C. Bloom fire him the minute Mo hands you the keys to the POBO office.

Amen rock

[cardfan$4041956]

Not only that with pitching,what is the thought process of pinch hitting for Herrara who was 2 for 4 with Pages? If you want defense let Ivan hit and then put Pages in

[Red7]

Got the W but lifting McGreevy after 76 pitches and then O’Brien after 14? Why? Because the dreaded spreadsheet said to do so.

Yet we have some in here who still defend him.

Please, please C. Bloom fire him the minute Mo hands you the keys to the POBO office.

Amen rock

You DO know that Mo and Bloom are cut from the same cloth. If he decides he wants his own guy, it WILL be another Oli. The hopes of Pujols or Molina are pipe dreams. Both would want the type of control that Marmol can only dream of and that ain’t happening.

[Red7]

Not only that with pitching,what is the thought process of pinch hitting for Herrara who was 2 for 4 with Pages? If you want defense let Ivan hit and then put Pages in

Pages was already in the game. He did not pinch hit for Herrera.

[Goldfan]

Mcgreevy has regularly gone over 100 pitchesat Memphis.

This ain’t April.

He’s gone 7-8 innings IN MLB GAMES…..the lil midget in the dugout needs to go back to little league