Donovan, Herrera and Burleson could start for any MLB team, right now

[StlMike1969]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

I can never agree with this logic. Because the big men routinely get stuck at those positions and they are the ones hitting 25+ HR's does not define those positions as solely for guys that can hit 25+ HR's. Right now very few guys are hitting for power in the league. It should be the best 9 playing every day regardless of contract. Too often fans want to state a guy is bad because he plays those positions and cannot hit for power. Burleson has a bat and always has. What he lacks is playing time to get better. For some reason a guy like Walker can get all the time in the world to develop but Burleson is ragged on non stop. Do not understand it.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Perfect time to trade the one of those who is bad at every position except DH and 1B, which are both occupied for the foreseeable future by better hitters than him.

I am sorry but Contreras is not a better hitter than Burly at this point. Contreras is nothing special as some on this site like to make him out to be. Burleson has lacked the playing time to get better, Contreras is someone that needs approached about being a bench player or agreeing to be moved.

Yes contreras is vastly overrated on cards talk, they love that 240 average and propensity to strikeout a couple of times a game, Burleson is a better firs t baseman too.

[3dender]

Perfect time to trade the one of those who is bad at every position except DH and 1B, which are both occupied for the foreseeable future by better hitters than him.

I am sorry but Contreras is not a better hitter than Burly at this point. Contreras is nothing special as some on this site like to make him out to be. Burleson has lacked the playing time to get better, Contreras is someone that needs approached about being a bench player or agreeing to be moved.

Contreras is coming off 3 straight .800+ OPS seasons, the last one being .848. Burleson's top season is .735. Contreras is also a much better defensive 1B already after only playing there for 3 months.

You saying Burleson is better than him at anything is just your own recency bias. It is a very silly opinion.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

I can never agree with this logic. Because the big men routinely get stuck at those positions and they are the ones hitting 25+ HR's does not define those positions as solely for guys that can hit 25+ HR's. Right now very few guys are hitting for power in the league. It should be the best 9 playing every day regardless of contract. Too often fans want to state a guy is bad because he plays those positions and cannot hit for power. Burleson has a bat and always has. What he lacks is playing time to get better. For some reason a guy like Walker can get all the time in the world to develop but Burleson is ragged on non stop. Do not understand it.

It is really only 3 or 4 posters who rag on Burleson, I think they just hate to be wrong. Another thing about Contreras, he was signed to catch and he cannot catch

[ecleme22]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

I can never agree with this logic. Because the big men routinely get stuck at those positions and they are the ones hitting 25+ HR's does not define those positions as solely for guys that can hit 25+ HR's. Right now very few guys are hitting for power in the league. It should be the best 9 playing every day regardless of contract. Too often fans want to state a guy is bad because he plays those positions and cannot hit for power. Burleson has a bat and always has. What he lacks is playing time to get better. For some reason a guy like Walker can get all the time in the world to develop but Burleson is ragged on non stop. Do not understand it.

AB had 595 PA last year.

Walker was demoted to AAA most of the year.

Calm down with that “AB isn’t given a chance” bull[shirt]. Dude had like a .700 ops before this year career.

Lastly, Burleson hasn’t “always had a bat.” See last year.

And see Donovan for a guy who “always had a bat.”

[Jatalk]

Most of the time I enjoy Shady’s topics. This is a bit of a reach. ANY TEAM???????

[3dender]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

Burleson has a bat and always has. What he lacks is playing time to get better. For some reason a guy like Walker can get all the time in the world to develop but Burleson is ragged on non stop. Do not understand it.

This is just insanely ahistorical. There's no arguing with someone who does not live on the ground floor of reality.

[3dender]

More Contreras v. Burleson:

Contreras has been worth more bWAR/fWAR this year (1.1/1.2) than Burleson has in his entire career (1/0.6).

After Contreras's fluky first 5 games he has a .268/.360/.444 line for an .804 OPS with 9 HR and 45 RBI. The hottest-we've-ever seen Burleson is at .305/.346/.443 for .789 with 6HR and 23 RBI.

So literally the only thing he's better at is contact and batting average but that doesn't translate to OBP since he never walks.

[redbirdfan51]

Lots of great SS in baseball , but Mayson Winn is right up there.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Lots of great SS in baseball , but Mayson Winn is right up there.

you are right

[CorneliusWolfe]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

Truth. An empty .300 just like Aaron Miles. Not sure how he has so many fooled. CBS sports has an article about under the radar guys who should be all-stars, and Burleson made the list…with 21 RBIs (at the time) as a DH/1B and terrible outfielder. The overhype is real, and unbelievable.

[Futuregm2]

Perfect time to trade the one of those who is bad at every position except DH and 1B, which are both occupied for the foreseeable future by better hitters than him.

I am sorry but Contreras is not a better hitter than Burly at this point. Contreras is nothing special as some on this site like to make him out to be. Burleson has lacked the playing time to get better, Contreras is someone that needs approached about being a bench player or agreeing to be moved.

Over his last 51 games Contreras is hitting .290 with an .871 OPS and 38 RBI.

[scoutyjones2]

Perfect time to trade the one of those who is bad at every position except DH and 1B, which are both occupied for the foreseeable future by better hitters than him.

I am sorry but Contreras is not a better hitter than Burly at this point. Contreras is nothing special as some on this site like to make him out to be. Burleson has lacked the playing time to get better, Contreras is someone that needs approached about being a bench player or agreeing to be moved.

Over his last 51 games Contreras is hitting .290 with an .871 OPS and 38 RBI.

Yeah. He's horrible and would be benched on all MLB teams.

[scoutyjones2]

All three are outstanding MLB hitters. The Cardinals need about four more hitters like them.

[fork] off

[Futuregm2]

Is Burleson hitting 305, absolutely. Congrats

But he’s gonna end up scoring 50 runs, hitting 11 HR and 45 RBI or whatever.
And like 30 Walks… You can’t have that at corner OF/DH

I can never agree with this logic. Because the big men routinely get stuck at those positions and they are the ones hitting 25+ HR's does not define those positions as solely for guys that can hit 25+ HR's. Right now very few guys are hitting for power in the league. It should be the best 9 playing every day regardless of contract. Too often fans want to state a guy is bad because he plays those positions and cannot hit for power. Burleson has a bat and always has. What he lacks is playing time to get better. For some reason a guy like Walker can get all the time in the world to develop but Burleson is ragged on non stop. Do not understand it.

What?? It’s June and there are already have player(s) at 25+ HRs. Maybe if you only watch STL games you would think that because we are nearly last in both HRs hit and HRs given up. Fact is 155 players in baseball have more HRs than Burly, that’s an average of 5 per team.

[JDW]

So Burly is trending to have a similar bWAR to last year, as he's currently at +0.6. Yipee, at least he's in the positive now, but not what I'd strive for with a starter .................... unless I'm the Rockies, or the Pirates, or the White Sox, etc.
Decent bench guy unless he improves his plate discipline and power. Put him in a hitter friendly ballpark that fits his hit profile better, and maybe that looks different.