With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
The teams outside of our division that could use a third baseman of Arenado's limited caliber are basically Detroit and Minnesota.
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
Again....opinions vary.ShakeyWalton wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:48 amAbove average bat? His OBP is .304.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:06 am I’m sure there are a number of teams who would like to have Arenado at 3B.
He is still a plus/plus defender and an above average bat.
But then you have to factor in:
Age
Contract($37M owed 2026/2027!)
Cost in talent to acquire?
*No trade clause!!!!!
Even if they get little in return they might be forced to send more $$ than comfortable with?
In that case might be better to keep him at least for the start of 2026??
I guess it depends on what constitutes “average”??
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
His 93 OPS+ is seven percent below league average. He's not getting on base nearly enough. We're close to the halfway mark and he has just 19 XBH so the slugging isn't there either. To move him would probably require him to expand his acceptable team list to include one with a desperate need. And I couldn't imagine someone acquiring him as a 1B when cost controlled or AAA 1B could be had.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:53 amAgain....opinions vary.ShakeyWalton wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:48 amAbove average bat? His OBP is .304.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:06 am I’m sure there are a number of teams who would like to have Arenado at 3B.
He is still a plus/plus defender and an above average bat.
But then you have to factor in:
Age
Contract($37M owed 2026/2027!)
Cost in talent to acquire?
*No trade clause!!!!!
Even if they get little in return they might be forced to send more $$ than comfortable with?
In that case might be better to keep him at least for the start of 2026??
I guess it depends on what constitutes “average”??
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
with Nado's selfish inflated sense of worth turning down all trades, we're stuck with him
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
MLB average 3B OPS is .710. Arenado is at .692. Thus he’s below average.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:53 amAgain....opinions vary.ShakeyWalton wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:48 amAbove average bat? His OBP is .304.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:06 am I’m sure there are a number of teams who would like to have Arenado at 3B.
He is still a plus/plus defender and an above average bat.
But then you have to factor in:
Age
Contract($37M owed 2026/2027!)
Cost in talent to acquire?
*No trade clause!!!!!
Even if they get little in return they might be forced to send more $$ than comfortable with?
In that case might be better to keep him at least for the start of 2026??
I guess it depends on what constitutes “average”??
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
The Athletic reported that the Sox ditching Devers makes Bregman "an opt-out waiting to happen". Meaning after this season the Bosox would have jettisoned or FA-lost Betts, Bogaerts, Sale, Devers, and Bregman all over a few years. It's showtime NOW, whether they're ready or not, for Kristian Campbell, Roman Anthony, and Marcelo Mayer to justify their sky-high expectations.cardstatman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 23:08 pm Bregman's $80M/2yr remaining at the end of the season has $20M per season deferred 10+ years so it is only worth ~$60M/2yr.
If he has a great season, and he is currently having one, he would be wise to opt out and sign a new longer term deal after his age 31 season.
Then the Red Sox may be looking for a 3B and Arenado is friends with Story. The Green Monster would also be his new friend.
No doubt the Eastern Sports Propaganda Network will keep us aware of their every living breath, and probably televise live every Rafael Devers at-bat with the SFG.
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
I don’t see many teams interested in Nado.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 08:30 am I don't think so
Rumors have them once again being in payroll slashing mode and T. Story could be next to go.
The ONLY reason NADO would even waive his NTC would be to play w/his pal Story.
If his agent gets wind of Story being moved, no way NADO ways.
But again, I don't see the Sox calling for him.
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
He retires a Cardinal?Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 14:05 pmI don’t see many teams interested in Nado.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 08:30 am I don't think so
Rumors have them once again being in payroll slashing mode and T. Story could be next to go.
The ONLY reason NADO would even waive his NTC would be to play w/his pal Story.
If his agent gets wind of Story being moved, no way NADO ways.
But again, I don't see the Sox calling for him.
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
They might, I doubt it, but I don't know Boston all that well.
But like when Houston traded Tucker, I've got to at least suspect that Arenado's interest in playing in Boston is now less than it was now that Devers is gone.
But like when Houston traded Tucker, I've got to at least suspect that Arenado's interest in playing in Boston is now less than it was now that Devers is gone.
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
Assuming they want to lower payroll they can do that once Gray and WC contracts are up. At that point I think they can afford to keep him. Have your token old guy and he would look good in a red jacket eventually.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 14:11 pmHe retires a Cardinal?Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 14:05 pmI don’t see many teams interested in Nado.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 08:30 am I don't think so
Rumors have them once again being in payroll slashing mode and T. Story could be next to go.
The ONLY reason NADO would even waive his NTC would be to play w/his pal Story.
If his agent gets wind of Story being moved, no way NADO ways.
But again, I don't see the Sox calling for him.
So yeah I think he does retire a Cardinals.
I don’t think his bat will age well but who knows and he is a house hold name. Good for marketing and sales
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
There are rumors he is going to opt out…….cardstatman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 23:08 pm Bregman's $80M/2yr remaining at the end of the season has $20M per season deferred 10+ years so it is only worth ~$60M/2yr.
If he has a great season, and he is currently having one, he would be wise to opt out and sign a new longer term deal after his age 31 season.
Then the Red Sox may be looking for a 3B and Arenado is friends with Story. The Green Monster would also be his new friend.
They are enhanced by the stories of the Sox slashing payroll and moving players…
Supposedly……Alex Cora is on the hot seat too..
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
Even in the event that Boston did want him why would NA want them?45s wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:52 pmThere are rumors he is going to opt out…….cardstatman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 23:08 pm Bregman's $80M/2yr remaining at the end of the season has $20M per season deferred 10+ years so it is only worth ~$60M/2yr.
If he has a great season, and he is currently having one, he would be wise to opt out and sign a new longer term deal after his age 31 season.
Then the Red Sox may be looking for a 3B and Arenado is friends with Story. The Green Monster would also be his new friend.
They are enhanced by the stories of the Sox slashing payroll and moving players…
Supposedly……Alex Cora is on the hot seat too..
The arms race in the NLW might have a team want him or the one
in the NLE.
Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
The mlb ops is .710 and his is .692Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:53 amAgain....opinions vary.ShakeyWalton wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:48 amAbove average bat? His OBP is .304.Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 11:06 am I’m sure there are a number of teams who would like to have Arenado at 3B.
He is still a plus/plus defender and an above average bat.
But then you have to factor in:
Age
Contract($37M owed 2026/2027!)
Cost in talent to acquire?
*No trade clause!!!!!
Even if they get little in return they might be forced to send more $$ than comfortable with?
In that case might be better to keep him at least for the start of 2026??
I guess it depends on what constitutes “average”??
Also he has a 93 ops+
ops+ accounts for park factirs and 100 is automstically average. He was 101 last year and 93 this year. While this yearnisnt complete, theres been a steady decline outside of 2022 so it stands to reason he wont finish above avg and be average at best. My guessnis hebwill be below average still at seasons end.
Theres almost no basis to assert him as above average at this point. Numbers dont lie. You simply are overrating him because of name. His rbi numbers will drop now thathe was moved down lineup. Rbis are a product of batting order
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
Sounds like a lot of anxiety in the world. Rumors, and stories, and supposedlys... Maybe they'll just tear down Fenway altogether!45s wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:52 pmThere are rumors he is going to opt out…….cardstatman wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 23:08 pm Bregman's $80M/2yr remaining at the end of the season has $20M per season deferred 10+ years so it is only worth ~$60M/2yr.
If he has a great season, and he is currently having one, he would be wise to opt out and sign a new longer term deal after his age 31 season.
Then the Red Sox may be looking for a 3B and Arenado is friends with Story. The Green Monster would also be his new friend.
They are enhanced by the stories of the Sox slashing payroll and moving players…
Supposedly……Alex Cora is on the hot seat too..
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
I would think that the only teams interested in Arenado would specifically want to play 3B. You are losing his value if you're not playing him at 3B for his defense.
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Re: With Devers gone, does that motivate Red Sox to consider Arenado once again ?
I don't think he gets traded, for various reasons mostly detailed here.
BUT, as a strong pull hitter, he'd get a lot of doubles off Fenway's green wall, and some more homers. That is, Boston could have been a very good fit for him offensively.
Personally, I like Nado and think he still adds a lot to the Cardinals team. Hopefully, he'll rally to get above average OPS.
BUT, as a strong pull hitter, he'd get a lot of doubles off Fenway's green wall, and some more homers. That is, Boston could have been a very good fit for him offensively.
Personally, I like Nado and think he still adds a lot to the Cardinals team. Hopefully, he'll rally to get above average OPS.