Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:00 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:54 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:05 am
Bully4you wrote: 13 Jun 2025 09:14 am I wish there was a way to conduct a poll.
The below are whom I consider the most
savvy baseball contributors here.
If I missed you, sorry.
I might have missed a few that deserve to be
on this list.

I have the following contributors:

A. Melville
B. Rockondkouie
C. Mattmitch
D. An Old Friend
E. Ecleme
F. Futuregm
G. Craviduce

I am torn between Melville
and Rockondlouie.
I'd have to go with a two headed
monster of the two.
Be a (drat) good team :D :D
I would vote for Cranny.

The person who axlctylly loves Cardinals baseball, is loyal to the team and realistic. Really the only person who will consistently stand up for the players, organization and management. Just about everyone else sucks, completely unknowledgeable about the game and don't really support the team.
Is that really a recipe for being able to make the hard decisions necessary to keep turning the roster over to remain competitive?

You probably really don't want your GM to be a "fan" as much as you want them to be an objective decision maker.
It’s like the street dope dealer. He never makes a profit cause he’s to busy smoking or sharing his product.

The shrewd dope dealer makes a mint cause it’s strictly business.
What is business? It's serving the needs and wants of your customers. When your business is making money and personal benefit your "business" will fall miserably. The people making decisions serve the people and "fans" which this management has done extremely well for decades. Too many people are listening to folks like you and it is killing the business.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:00 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:54 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:05 am
Bully4you wrote: 13 Jun 2025 09:14 am I wish there was a way to conduct a poll.
The below are whom I consider the most
savvy baseball contributors here.
If I missed you, sorry.
I might have missed a few that deserve to be
on this list.

I have the following contributors:

A. Melville
B. Rockondkouie
C. Mattmitch
D. An Old Friend
E. Ecleme
F. Futuregm
G. Craviduce

I am torn between Melville
and Rockondlouie.
I'd have to go with a two headed
monster of the two.
Be a (drat) good team :D :D
I would vote for Cranny.

The person who axlctylly loves Cardinals baseball, is loyal to the team and realistic. Really the only person who will consistently stand up for the players, organization and management. Just about everyone else sucks, completely unknowledgeable about the game and don't really support the team.
Is that really a recipe for being able to make the hard decisions necessary to keep turning the roster over to remain competitive?

You probably really don't want your GM to be a "fan" as much as you want them to be an objective decision maker.
It’s like the street dope dealer. He never makes a profit cause he’s to busy smoking or sharing his product.

The shrewd dope dealer makes a mint cause it’s strictly business.
What is business? It's serving the needs and wants of your customers. When your business is making money and personal benefit your "business" will fall miserably. The people making decisions serve the people and "fans" which this management has done extremely well for decades. Too many people are listening to folks like you and it is killing the business.
No one listens to me. I’m an old man over the hill out to pasture. You missed my point. When a product based company uses more of its product internally , pleasure or waste, it will suffer.

The thrifty smart man, sells all his goods, no indulgence.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
100%

Sounds like you’d be a big fan of me at the helm!
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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An Old Friend wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:10 am
11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
100%

Sounds like you’d be a big fan of me at the helm!
AOF, don’t you think you’re too argumentative, you’d never be able to get a trade deal done or come to a contract agreement 8O
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
You mean the guy who grabs his crotch and shakes it at our pitcher? That guy?
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Cranny wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:17 am
11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
You mean the guy who grabs his crotch and shakes it at our pitcher? That guy?
Quit outing your past here.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Cranny wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:17 am
11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
You mean the guy who grabs his crotch and shakes it at our pitcher? That guy?
He could also use a shave and a haircut.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:48 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:54 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:05 am
Bully4you wrote: 13 Jun 2025 09:14 am I wish there was a way to conduct a poll.
The below are whom I consider the most
savvy baseball contributors here.
If I missed you, sorry.
I might have missed a few that deserve to be
on this list.

I have the following contributors:

A. Melville
B. Rockondkouie
C. Mattmitch
D. An Old Friend
E. Ecleme
F. Futuregm
G. Craviduce

I am torn between Melville
and Rockondlouie.
I'd have to go with a two headed
monster of the two.
Be a (drat) good team :D :D
I would vote for Cranny.

The person who axlctylly loves Cardinals baseball, is loyal to the team and realistic. Really the only person who will consistently stand up for the players, organization and management. Just about everyone else sucks, completely unknowledgeable about the game and don't really support the team.
Is that really a recipe for being able to make the hard decisions necessary to keep turning the roster over to remain competitive?

You probably really don't want your GM to be a "fan" as much as you want them to be an objective decision maker.
You make a fair point but an extremely vague one. Yes, it is the exact recipe and really the only thing that is important at the end of the day. What the "fans" think and want is what keeps the whole thing going. Only a person who is committed to striving in bringing that will succeed. The GM or any other executive must work towards selling that and believing in it. Therefore, the people who make those "hard decisions" are the ones who are most passionate about them on the side of the "fans". The biggest fans who love the model and organization most should make the decisions.
I would say this - winning takes care of everything. Sometimes what the "fans" think they want will be contrary to giving the team the best opportunity to win. That's why a GM needs to be more dispassionate and more businesslike in their decision making.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:23 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:48 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:54 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:05 am
Bully4you wrote: 13 Jun 2025 09:14 am I wish there was a way to conduct a poll.
The below are whom I consider the most
savvy baseball contributors here.
If I missed you, sorry.
I might have missed a few that deserve to be
on this list.

I have the following contributors:

A. Melville
B. Rockondkouie
C. Mattmitch
D. An Old Friend
E. Ecleme
F. Futuregm
G. Craviduce

I am torn between Melville
and Rockondlouie.
I'd have to go with a two headed
monster of the two.
Be a (drat) good team :D :D
I would vote for Cranny.

The person who axlctylly loves Cardinals baseball, is loyal to the team and realistic. Really the only person who will consistently stand up for the players, organization and management. Just about everyone else sucks, completely unknowledgeable about the game and don't really support the team.
Is that really a recipe for being able to make the hard decisions necessary to keep turning the roster over to remain competitive?

You probably really don't want your GM to be a "fan" as much as you want them to be an objective decision maker.
You make a fair point but an extremely vague one. Yes, it is the exact recipe and really the only thing that is important at the end of the day. What the "fans" think and want is what keeps the whole thing going. Only a person who is committed to striving in bringing that will succeed. The GM or any other executive must work towards selling that and believing in it. Therefore, the people who make those "hard decisions" are the ones who are most passionate about them on the side of the "fans". The biggest fans who love the model and organization most should make the decisions.
I would say this - winning takes care of everything. Sometimes what the "fans" think they want will be contrary to giving the team the best opportunity to win. That's why a GM needs to be more dispassionate and more businesslike in their decision making.
Okay 👍, I really have no idea what the hell you are posting about and why you shouldn't be the the GM in my opinion. What is this more "business like" model you post about? The Cards put a good product out constantly, tons of winning seasons, lots of great players, the best facilities anywhere in the league, affordable prices, good members of the community, lots of playoff appearances, WS championships, a focus on their history and traditions etc etc etc.

If you "best fans in baseball" want the Dodgers experience, show up 50k strong spending the big bucks and bringing the Cranny type loyalty.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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11WSChamps wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:03 am Any poster who didn't advocate for signing Harper when he became a FA is automatically disqualified.
Huh? We got Goldy around the same time. He was more affordable for you "business like" people, won an MVP, and was a great Cardinal. How was Harper so much better? Did he contribute to ever winning the WS? The Phillies are a lot more than just Harper. What exactly makes you so certain the Cards fate is any different with him?
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:02 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:55 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 09:00 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:54 am
Ike Hammett wrote: 14 Jun 2025 08:05 am
Bully4you wrote: 13 Jun 2025 09:14 am I wish there was a way to conduct a poll.
The below are whom I consider the most
savvy baseball contributors here.
If I missed you, sorry.
I might have missed a few that deserve to be
on this list.

I have the following contributors:

A. Melville
B. Rockondkouie
C. Mattmitch
D. An Old Friend
E. Ecleme
F. Futuregm
G. Craviduce

I am torn between Melville
and Rockondlouie.
I'd have to go with a two headed
monster of the two.
Be a (drat) good team :D :D
I would vote for Cranny.

The person who axlctylly loves Cardinals baseball, is loyal to the team and realistic. Really the only person who will consistently stand up for the players, organization and management. Just about everyone else sucks, completely unknowledgeable about the game and don't really support the team.
Is that really a recipe for being able to make the hard decisions necessary to keep turning the roster over to remain competitive?

You probably really don't want your GM to be a "fan" as much as you want them to be an objective decision maker.
It’s like the street dope dealer. He never makes a profit cause he’s to busy smoking or sharing his product.

The shrewd dope dealer makes a mint cause it’s strictly business.
What is business? It's serving the needs and wants of your customers. When your business is making money and personal benefit your "business" will fall miserably. The people making decisions serve the people and "fans" which this management has done extremely well for decades. Too many people are listening to folks like you and it is killing the business.
No one listens to me. I’m an old man over the hill out to pasture. You missed my point. When a product based company uses more of its product internally , pleasure or waste, it will suffer.

The thrifty smart man, sells all his goods, no indulgence.
What is this "indulgence" you post of? What do you want? Please do tell what would make the whole "fan"base happy.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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spfldan wrote: 13 Jun 2025 18:43 pm I'll play. I'll go duce (minor league guru)
Mel (easy. obvious,correct)
RBI rules (stat knowledge)
BullDog (likeable guy,we could hang)

(It is quite possible the best candidate doesn't post enough to know about him/her)
Bulldog is definitely running the Game Day Experience DJ booth.
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RunSup wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:56 am
spfldan wrote: 13 Jun 2025 18:43 pm I'll play. I'll go duce (minor league guru)
Mel (easy. obvious,correct)
RBI rules (stat knowledge)
BullDog (likeable guy,we could hang)

(It is quite possible the best candidate doesn't post enough to know about him/her)
Bulldog is definitely running the Game Day Experience DJ booth.
I don’t know what I’d start the show with? Maybe Nugent -Stranglehold.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 11:00 am
RunSup wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:56 am
spfldan wrote: 13 Jun 2025 18:43 pm I'll play. I'll go duce (minor league guru)
Mel (easy. obvious,correct)
RBI rules (stat knowledge)
BullDog (likeable guy,we could hang)

(It is quite possible the best candidate doesn't post enough to know about him/her)
Bulldog is definitely running the Game Day Experience DJ booth.
I don’t know what I’d start the show with? Maybe Nugent -Stranglehold.
You have the board. We trust you.

They used to announce lineups to Led Zeppelin Kashmir. I haven't heard that the times I've been there this year.

Just educate the kid who is spinning electronic rave music. You'll have to have a fun sing-along song in your pocket for mid-game. No Neil Diamond please.
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Re: Poll for Cards Talk- Which poster would make the best GM

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RunSup wrote: 14 Jun 2025 11:13 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 Jun 2025 11:00 am
RunSup wrote: 14 Jun 2025 10:56 am
spfldan wrote: 13 Jun 2025 18:43 pm I'll play. I'll go duce (minor league guru)
Mel (easy. obvious,correct)
RBI rules (stat knowledge)
BullDog (likeable guy,we could hang)

(It is quite possible the best candidate doesn't post enough to know about him/her)
Bulldog is definitely running the Game Day Experience DJ booth.
I don’t know what I’d start the show with? Maybe Nugent -Stranglehold.
You have the board. We trust you.

They used to announce lineups to Led Zeppelin Kashmir. I haven't heard that the times I've been there this year.

Just educate the kid who is spinning electronic rave music. You'll have to have a fun sing-along song in your pocket for mid-game. No Neil Diamond please.
Did you see that crowd at the foam party at ballpark village last night? That's what's up! DJ Dex is bringing the good stuff to the younger crowd, Cards need to focus more on drawing attention towards younger cooler people, older folks should understand and go with the flow.
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