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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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Agreed. A guy more like Holloway/Neighbours/Schenn is…exactly how Bolduc is trending, except he’s an actual sniper, which would make him even more unique and valuable. And he’s 21.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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BluesDom wrote: 10 Jun 2025 15:24 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Jun 2025 14:11 pm
BluesDom wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:38 pm I like Bolduc. He wasnt good in the playoffs--7 games 1 assist and 16 penalty minutes. Small sample size. Based on his great breakout season. He may be a guy that could get you a grittier player in return. I like him and I think hes gotten tougher for sure. Part of me thinks we should sell high and get a more impactful player--could be wrong. (him plus some nice draft capital and a veteran d-man---might make a sexy package to lure what we need.)
I would think it's wrong to judge a rookie based on his performance in one round of his first playoff series. It's kinda harsh don't you think?
Definitely harsh. Im just sayin. Maybe the playoffs are what he actually is. Many players who are awesome in regular season and disappear in playoffs. Possibly Kyrou--Although Kyrou had his moments. Its very unlikely that Bolduc is getting traded. But..If they felt that he was a tad soft--they could trade him for a guy more like Holloway/Neighbours/Schenn. Good to sell high. In reality Im sure he will have less rope next year. He will be expected to clean up all the dumb penalties. I hope he is going to become a complete player. He made great strides under Monty. Next year will be telling.
I'll just say that if last year is who he is, playoff cold and all, we have 5 more years to figure it out. He's not even out of his ELC yet, then we have like 3-4 years of RFA. We have time before worrying about a NTC on him.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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Which 7 teams?
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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roadkillIL wrote: 11 Jun 2025 05:46 am Which 7 teams?
Montreal with Lane Hutson, etc

The 7 teams with a rookie ranked higher than Bolduc.

Clearly Im oversimplifying things, but my point is valid. 8th in voting isnt good enough in general.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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BluesDom wrote: 10 Jun 2025 15:24 pm
TAFKAP wrote: 10 Jun 2025 14:11 pm
BluesDom wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:38 pm I like Bolduc. He wasnt good in the playoffs--7 games 1 assist and 16 penalty minutes. Small sample size. Based on his great breakout season. He may be a guy that could get you a grittier player in return. I like him and I think hes gotten tougher for sure. Part of me thinks we should sell high and get a more impactful player--could be wrong. (him plus some nice draft capital and a veteran d-man---might make a sexy package to lure what we need.)
I would think it's wrong to judge a rookie based on his performance in one round of his first playoff series. It's kinda harsh don't you think?
Definitely harsh. Im just sayin. Maybe the playoffs are what he actually is. Many players who are awesome in regular season and disappear in playoffs. Possibly Kyrou--Although Kyrou had his moments. Its very unlikely that Bolduc is getting traded. But..If they felt that he was a tad soft--they could trade him for a guy more like Holloway/Neighbours/Schenn. Good to sell high. In reality Im sure he will have less rope next year. He will be expected to clean up all the dumb penalties. I hope he is going to become a complete player. He made great strides under Monty. Next year will be telling.
LOL
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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Congratulations to Zack Bolduc!!!

I have a strong feeling we will be celebrating Jimmy Snuggerud next year.

As much as some of the non-fans try to pretend otherwise, the Blues are looking like a team with a great future.
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:16 am
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
Fact: The Blues did not have a top-5 pick from 2009 through 2018, a span of
TEN YEARS!
Wanna guess what happened next? Huh?
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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DawgDad wrote: 11 Jun 2025 12:49 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:16 am
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
Fact: The Blues did not have a top-5 pick from 2009 through 2018, a span of
TEN YEARS!
Wanna guess what happened next? Huh?
The Blues had 1 Top5 pick on their team in 2019, Pietrangelo.

Wanna guess what happened?
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 15:46 pm
DawgDad wrote: 11 Jun 2025 12:49 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:16 am
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
Fact: The Blues did not have a top-5 pick from 2009 through 2018, a span of
TEN YEARS!
Wanna guess what happened next? Huh?
The Blues had 1 Top5 pick on their team in 2019, Pietrangelo.

Wanna guess what happened?
Not to overstate the obvious, but what about the prior 10 years we had him??
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:35 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 15:46 pm
DawgDad wrote: 11 Jun 2025 12:49 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:16 am
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
Fact: The Blues did not have a top-5 pick from 2009 through 2018, a span of
TEN YEARS!
Wanna guess what happened next? Huh?
The Blues had 1 Top5 pick on their team in 2019, Pietrangelo.

Wanna guess what happened?
Not to overstate the obvious, but what about the prior 10 years we had him??
Good point. We should have won them all. :roll:
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Re: Calder voting - Bolduc eighth

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Aesa wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:39 pm
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:35 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 15:46 pm
DawgDad wrote: 11 Jun 2025 12:49 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:16 am
netboy65 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 06:34 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 10 Jun 2025 22:51 pm
netboy65 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:31 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:08 pm Bolduc looks like hes going to be a very good forward moving ahead for the franchise. 24gs in only 97 GP i believe Zach was tied for 5th in his class in G/GP and 10th in Goals. Has a complete game, plays with an edge, very coachable, elite skater, good size, elite shot. 30 goals at some point may not be a stretch another great Blues draft pick
He can’t be any good, he wasn’t top 5 pick
I'll update my betting log. The Blues will win the Stanley Cup as long as we don't play are team with a rookie rated higher than Bolduc. I'm a stickler when it comes to having the better players than the other guys.

I like Bolduc as much as you guys, but that doesn't change the fact that 7 other teams likely improved more than the Blues in the draft. That is nothing to applaud. That is an "L" in my score book.
Shouldn’t Celebrini be the highest ranked since he was drafted the highest? You must be completely exhausted moving the goalposts all the time
Every team that didnt get the top 5 resulr from the draft, is a loser. If you are not gaining ground, you are losing ground.
Fact: The Blues did not have a top-5 pick from 2009 through 2018, a span of
TEN YEARS!
Wanna guess what happened next? Huh?
The Blues had 1 Top5 pick on their team in 2019, Pietrangelo.

Wanna guess what happened?
Not to overstate the obvious, but what about the prior 10 years we had him??
Good point. We should have won them all. :roll:
This....and also an aside from the fact Petro not the best player on that team either.
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