What would be a "breakout season" for Lars Nootbaar

[reson8]

Corner OF, like 1st and 3rd, are premium offensive positions. Ideally you'd like 800+ OPS guys at those spots. Not sure if Noot will ever be that guy. He stays for now since RF and 3B are even worse problems and there isn't any help on the horizon. Donovan to LF, Sagesse to 2B and Noot to RF might solve one of them but that limits PA's for Burly who has shown some life lately.

[CCard]

I've seen the phrase "breakout season" thrown around a few times in the same sentence as Lars Nootbaar. I'm trying to understand what people think that might look like.

He's 27 this year. His 162G average (he's played 108, 117, 109 games in the last 3 seasons) includes a 3.1 bWar, 25 2b, 19 hr, 60 rbi, and 10 steals to go with a .774 OPS.

Tell me

What a "peak season" would be

And

What you think his average season is over the next 5 years, in terms of: Games Played, WAR, HR, OBP, and OPS.

I want guesses of all 5 stats for both a peak season and his average season over the next 5 years.

25-30 Hr
.300 avg
25-30 steals
.400 Obp
145 or more games played
Something like that, give or take a little. He's very patient and that's a good thing but he still has too much swing and miss I think. With two strikes he needs to cut down his swing and make contact. Gorman needs to do this as well. Yadi was as smart as it gets and he used this approach. First two strikes he tried to hit it to the moone but then when down two strikes he would shorten up and try to punch the ball to right field. Turned himself into a fair hitter. Why more players don't take this approach, I just don't understand.

Nootbaar will never put up 25-30 hr, nor 25-30 steals, nor hit .300 in a full season.

He might play 145 games though.

You're probably right. We need to find a better alternative.

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He'd better worry right now about just making contact.

[Strummer Jones]

"What would be a 'breakout season' for Lars Nootbaar"?

Oh, I dunno. Hitting above .250 would be a start.

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Well, it probably looks like what we're seeing...
130 wRC+
Elite walk rate, more walks than strikeouts
5-6 WAR pace

Sit back and enjoy

I don't think anybody's enjoying him right now, including himself.

[Melville]

He plays 150 games.

That would be more of a disaster than a breakout.

[Melville]

I've seen the phrase "breakout season" thrown around a few times in the same sentence as Lars Nootbaar. I'm trying to understand what people think that might look like.

He's 27 this year. His 162G average (he's played 108, 117, 109 games in the last 3 seasons) includes a 3.1 bWar, 25 2b, 19 hr, 60 rbi, and 10 steals to go with a .774 OPS.

Tell me

What a "peak season" would be

And

What you think his average season is over the next 5 years, in terms of: Games Played, WAR, HR, OBP, and OPS.

I want guesses of all 5 stats for both a peak season and his average season over the next 5 years.

25-30 Hr
.300 avg
25-30 steals
.400 Obp
145 or more games played
Something like that, give or take a little. He's very patient and that's a good thing but he still has too much swing and miss I think. With two strikes he needs to cut down his swing and make contact. Gorman needs to do this as well. Yadi was as smart as it gets and he used this approach. First two strikes he tried to hit it to the moone but then when down two strikes he would shorten up and try to punch the ball to right field. Turned himself into a fair hitter. Why more players don't take this approach, I just don't understand.

Nootbaar will never put up 25-30 hr, nor 25-30 steals, nor hit .300 in a full season.

He might play 145 games though.

You're probably right. We need to find a better alternative.

Based on the current roster, when all are healthy the best option unquestionably is Donovan in LF, Scott in CF, and Walker in RF - with Lars The Human Sushi-baar backing them up.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Which is why I advised that very thing before the season began.