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2017 redraft top 20 players

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Nico Hischier (C)
Nolan Patrick (C)
Miro Heiskanen (D)
Cale Makar (D)
Elias Pettersson (C)
Cody Glass (C)
Lias Andersson (C)
Casey Mittelstadt (C)
Michael Rasmussen (C)
Owen Tippett (RW)
Gabriel Vilardi (C)
Martin Necas (C)
Nick Suzuki (C)
Callan Foote (D)
Erik Brannstrom (D)
Juuso Valimaki (D)
Timothy Liljegren (D)
Urho Vaakanainen (D)
Josh Norris (C)
Robert Thomas 


How far up does thomas go. We are assuming that petterson and cale go 1 and 2 right
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Peter would be nowhere near #2 for me or many right now
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I’d probably put Thomas 3rd or 4th. Makar, Heiskanen, and then Thomas or Pettersson at #3. I’m not a fan of Pettersson, so I’d go with Thomas.
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Makar
Heskeinen
Thomas
Heshier


Top 4
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Yeah i had thomas at 3 or 4 maybe 5. He makes the biggest jump in the re draft
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I’m putting Thomas at #2….Fock Miro Heiskanen
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IMO, he'd go 5 - 10 in most people's redrafts.

In mine, he'd be #4:

1) Makar
2) Heiskanen
3) Hischier
4) Thomas
5) Pettersson
6) Suzuki
7) Robertson
8) Oettinger
9) Necas
10) Swayman
11) Batherson
12) Vilardi
13) Tippet
14) Chytil
15) Norris
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Nublues69 wrote: 06 Jun 2025 12:25 pm Nico Hischier (C)
Nolan Patrick (C)
Miro Heiskanen (D)
Cale Makar (D)
Elias Pettersson (C)
Cody Glass (C)
Lias Andersson (C)
Casey Mittelstadt (C)
Michael Rasmussen (C)
Owen Tippett (RW)
Gabriel Vilardi (C)
Martin Necas (C)
Nick Suzuki (C)
Callan Foote (D)
Erik Brannstrom (D)
Juuso Valimaki (D)
Timothy Liljegren (D)
Urho Vaakanainen (D)
Josh Norris (C)
Robert Thomas 


How far up does thomas go. We are assuming that petterson and cale go 1 and 2 right
Pettersson shot out of the gate, but seems to have gotten comfortable including only 45 scoring points last year.

I think as of right now Thomas has passed him.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Jun 2025 12:56 pm Pettersson shot out of the gate, but seems to have gotten comfortable including only 45 scoring points last year.
It’s not about being comfortable. Something has happened. His top speed is down along with the velocity on his shot. Emotional issues as well.

If anything, he’s very uncomfortable
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I'd take him 3rd behind Makar and Robertson. Not too many players have nearly 80 point seasons the past 4 seasons and only 25 years old, Robertson is an absolute steal of 2017 draft.
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smilinjoefission wrote: 06 Jun 2025 14:56 pm I'd take him 3rd behind Makar and Robertson. Not too many players have nearly 80 point seasons the past 4 seasons and only 25 years old, Robertson is an absolute steal of 2017 draft.
The talking heads say Robertson is currently available. Would you trade RT for him? I sure wouldn’t. He’s a heck of a winger but RT is the much better overall player and plays the much more valuable position.

I’d have RT behind the 2 obvious d-men and then it’d be a tough call between RT and Hischer for 3rd. But those guys are the top 4 IMO. Then Suzuki and Petterson.
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Hell no robertson is a winger thomas is a center
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theograce wrote: 06 Jun 2025 13:21 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Jun 2025 12:56 pm Pettersson shot out of the gate, but seems to have gotten comfortable including only 45 scoring points last year.
It’s not about being comfortable. Something has happened. His top speed is down along with the velocity on his shot. Emotional issues as well.

If anything, he’s very uncomfortable
This. A lot of chatter that he's just lazy and entitled, unwilling to put effort into rehab/conditioning.

I think Tocchet leaving had as much to with management retaining EP40 over Miller as anything else, though thats obviously just my speculation.
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Army's Mom wrote: 06 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
theograce wrote: 06 Jun 2025 13:21 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 06 Jun 2025 12:56 pm Pettersson shot out of the gate, but seems to have gotten comfortable including only 45 scoring points last year.
It’s not about being comfortable. Something has happened. His top speed is down along with the velocity on his shot. Emotional issues as well.

If anything, he’s very uncomfortable
This. A lot of chatter that he's just lazy and entitled, unwilling to put effort into rehab/conditioning.

I think Tocchet leaving had as much to with management retaining EP40 over Miller as anything else, though thats obviously just my speculation.
I just can't imagine anyone that is lazy getting picked 5th OA in the NHL draft and scoring 100 points in an NHL season, that just doesn't happen to lazy people.
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Now we are talking. Yes, let's "redraft" 2017.

Here are the season results by month. Anybody see a "TREND" in the last month of the regular season? I have called this to your attention many times. This is Doug Armstrong's killing season. The team hits everything moving on a golf cart, and their Win/Loss results are breathtaking.

2016–17 Game Log[40]
October: 5–2–2 (Home: 3–1–1; Road: 2–1–1)
November: 8–5–1 (Home: 7–0–1; Road: 1–5–0)
December: 6–6–2 (Home: 4–2–2; Road: 2–4–0)
January: 5–8–0 (Home: 2–5–0; Road: 3–3–0)
February: 7–5–0 (Home: 2–3–0; Road: 5–2–0)
March: 11–2–2 (Home: 4–0–1; Road: 7–2–1)
April: 4–1–0 (Home: 2–1–0; Road: 2–0–0)

If the Blues had lost games at the same pace as they did earlier in the season....the Blues may not need a RHD right now.

I'd like to propose a trade.
You get the 12-game win-streak, and I get Cale Makar.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 06 Jun 2025 21:52 pm Now we are talking. Yes, let's "redraft" 2017.

Here are the season results by month. Anybody see a "TREND" in the last month of the regular season? I have called this to your attention many times. This is Doug Armstrong's killing season. The team hits everything moving on a golf cart, and their Win/Loss results are breathtaking.

2016–17 Game Log[40]
October: 5–2–2 (Home: 3–1–1; Road: 2–1–1)
November: 8–5–1 (Home: 7–0–1; Road: 1–5–0)
December: 6–6–2 (Home: 4–2–2; Road: 2–4–0)
January: 5–8–0 (Home: 2–5–0; Road: 3–3–0)
February: 7–5–0 (Home: 2–3–0; Road: 5–2–0)
March: 11–2–2 (Home: 4–0–1; Road: 7–2–1)
April: 4–1–0 (Home: 2–1–0; Road: 2–0–0)

If the Blues had lost games at the same pace as they did earlier in the season....the Blues may not need a RHD right now.

I'd like to propose a trade.
You get the 12-game win-streak, and I get Cale Makar.
I'm pretty sure they AVS would have something to say about that. :lol:
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