Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 27 May 2025 16:35 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Agree! What is Oli's problem?

Did he not notice Pages throwing out a base stealer AND hitting a home run yesterday? Has he not noticed how well the pitcher's pitch with Pages/Pozo behind the plate?

Weird.
one might call him Weird Oli
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Shady wrote: 27 May 2025 16:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 27 May 2025 15:00 pm
Shady wrote: 27 May 2025 14:51 pm
craviduce wrote: 27 May 2025 14:50 pm Walker needs to buy some Calves....veal is a great meat. Burleson has Calves. This is what got him into the lineup today.
So you're Son of Shady. Comedy ain't your strong point.
no...I read it this morning over breakfast. It was a funny thread, that became dark when you turned violent. Not a good look when you meltdown, Marshall.

And Cranny should've put you in your place, since he's all about propriety...but he turned another blind eye to your call for violence. No strong condemnation from Cranny. He condoned your racist puppets, he condoned your now twice calls for violence on here.

You two are quite the pair .

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Get help, you need a break from here.
Guru, you are "out to lunch". Just stick to reporting on the minors, the draft and giving lineups. Stay in your baseball lane. You're the one that got all this animosity krapp started. You need to take a break from "stirring the pot", Master.
Again, YOU need to look in the mirror! He hasn't started anything! It's your behavior which nearly everyone despises. YOU. YOU are the problem! You and your lawyers and MMA Fighters, GG Boxers, Ninjas, and Redneck Country boys!
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Futuregm2 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
I guess if you’re going to have him at catcher it’s good to do it vs a team that is the 2nd worst base running team in baseball by fangraphs.
And even they got 3 SB's (of course not all 3 Hererra's fault but shows teams will run-run-run w/him behind the plate)

BTW, have you been paying attention to the Scrubs and how they're running wild?

Counsell has brought that running game w/him from the Brewers and their combo of HR's + SB's = top scoring team in MLB.

Meanwhile Oli keeping a tight reign on VSII who should be leading MLB in steals by now given his very good .346OB%. :roll:
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Absolutely brutal last night.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:01 pm Cards pitchers have an ERA over 5.50 when Herrera started, under 3.00 when Pages starts
Ugly game behind the plate last night.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Melville wrote: 28 May 2025 08:54 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Absolutely brutal last night.
For those who want to applaud Oli for the teams solid start (and he deserves some but certainly not all the praise) this is yet another example why no one should want to see him in the Cardinals dugout ever again after this season.

Combined w/his history of awful lineup constructions and poor in game managing he has to go after this season.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 08:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
I guess if you’re going to have him at catcher it’s good to do it vs a team that is the 2nd worst base running team in baseball by fangraphs.
And even they got 3 SB's (of course not all 3 Hererra's fault but shows teams will run-run-run w/him behind the plate)

BTW, have you been paying attention to the Scrubs and how they're running wild?

Counsell has brought that running game w/him from the Brewers and their combo of HR's + SB's = top scoring team in MLB.

Meanwhile Oli keeping a tight reign on VSII who should be leading MLB in steals by now given his very good .346OB%. :roll:
And Cubs have the top 2 players in RB in baseball. Suzuki leading with 50 and Crow-Armstrong with 49 in 2nd. Not to mention Tucker at tied for 12th in baseball with 39. Our best? Contreras with 29 at Tied for 49th :roll:

Cubs have 5 players tied or ahead of our best in RBI. It’s ridiculous.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 27 May 2025 16:35 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Agree! What is Oli's problem?

Did he not notice Pages throwing out a base stealer AND hitting a home run yesterday? Has he not noticed how well the pitcher's pitch with Pages/Pozo behind the plate?

Weird.
It is weird, and Herrera struggled defensively just last night, plus got dinged on a foul ball.
Defense was pretty bad yesterday, which hasn't happened often. Great they found a way to win anyway.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 09:02 am
Melville wrote: 28 May 2025 08:54 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Absolutely brutal last night.
For those who want to applaud Oli for the teams solid start (and he deserves some but certainly not all the praise) this is yet another example why no one should want to see him in the Cardinals dugout ever again after this season.

Combined w/his history of awful lineup constructions and poor in game managing he has to go after this season.
Marmol is not a good manager. I will give him a little credit for improving, but not much. For those who credit the team's success this season to Oli. Imagine what Counsell or some other good manager would be doing with this team..... Hopefully this is Marmol's final season at the helm.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Shady wrote: 27 May 2025 16:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 27 May 2025 15:00 pm
Shady wrote: 27 May 2025 14:51 pm
craviduce wrote: 27 May 2025 14:50 pm Walker needs to buy some Calves....veal is a great meat. Burleson has Calves. This is what got him into the lineup today.
So you're Son of Shady. Comedy ain't your strong point.
no...I read it this morning over breakfast. It was a funny thread, that became dark when you turned violent. Not a good look when you meltdown, Marshall.

And Cranny should've put you in your place, since he's all about propriety...but he turned another blind eye to your call for violence. No strong condemnation from Cranny. He condoned your racist puppets, he condoned your now twice calls for violence on here.

You two are quite the pair .

-------

Get help, you need a break from here.
Guru, you are "out to lunch". Just stick to reporting on the minors, the draft and giving lineups. Stay in your baseball lane. You're the one that got all this animosity krapp started. You need to take a break from "stirring the pot", Master.
You're the one who got the animosity started, by being a complete tool on this forum. Don't forget, you did all this [shirt] to yourself.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Futuregm2 wrote: 28 May 2025 09:20 am
rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 08:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
I guess if you’re going to have him at catcher it’s good to do it vs a team that is the 2nd worst base running team in baseball by fangraphs.
And even they got 3 SB's (of course not all 3 Hererra's fault but shows teams will run-run-run w/him behind the plate)

BTW, have you been paying attention to the Scrubs and how they're running wild?

Counsell has brought that running game w/him from the Brewers and their combo of HR's + SB's = top scoring team in MLB.

Meanwhile Oli keeping a tight reign on VSII who should be leading MLB in steals by now given his very good .346OB%. :roll:
And Cubs have the top 2 players in RB in baseball. Suzuki leading with 50 and Crow-Armstrong with 49 in 2nd. Not to mention Tucker at tied for 12th in baseball with 39. Our best? Contreras with 29 at Tied for 49th :roll:

Cubs have 5 players tied or ahead of our best in RBI. It’s ridiculous.
Saw that too, crazy ::crazya::
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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bccardsfan wrote: 28 May 2025 09:30 am
rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 09:02 am
Melville wrote: 28 May 2025 08:54 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
Absolutely brutal last night.
For those who want to applaud Oli for the teams solid start (and he deserves some but certainly not all the praise) this is yet another example why no one should want to see him in the Cardinals dugout ever again after this season.

Combined w/his history of awful lineup constructions and poor in game managing he has to go after this season.
Marmol is not a good manager. I will give him a little credit for improving, but not much. For those who credit the team's success this season to Oli. Imagine what Counsell or some other good manager would be doing with this team..... Hopefully this is Marmol's final season at the helm.
BINGO bccf!

I've been saying the same thing, what would this team look like if they had an elite Manager?

B. Bryant/J. Jay additions are helping to cover up all of Oli's warts.

Fingers crossed C. Bloom has his Manager in mind already and it's NOT Oli.
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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Futuregm2 wrote: 28 May 2025 09:20 am
rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 08:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
I guess if you’re going to have him at catcher it’s good to do it vs a team that is the 2nd worst base running team in baseball by fangraphs.
And even they got 3 SB's (of course not all 3 Hererra's fault but shows teams will run-run-run w/him behind the plate)

BTW, have you been paying attention to the Scrubs and how they're running wild?

Counsell has brought that running game w/him from the Brewers and their combo of HR's + SB's = top scoring team in MLB.

Meanwhile Oli keeping a tight reign on VSII who should be leading MLB in steals by now given his very good .346OB%. :roll:
And Cubs have the top 2 players in RB in baseball. Suzuki leading with 50 and Crow-Armstrong with 49 in 2nd. Not to mention Tucker at tied for 12th in baseball with 39. Our best? Contreras with 29 at Tied for 49th :roll:

Cubs have 5 players tied or ahead of our best in RBI. It’s ridiculous.
If Herrera doesn't stop swinging at those down-and-in pitches, his reign as MOTO bat may be short-lived. Also, I'm not gonna complain about a guy hitting .350 with an OPS over 1.000 but wth is his power? He hasn't homered since that 3-homer game over a month ago.

And the Cubs have got to come back down to earth at some point--I hope? 8O They're on pace for almost 1,000 runs. It's either one of those "magical seasons" or the Cards are just gonna have to focus on the WC considering they have the softest schedule in MLB although we do face them 13 times. Another come-from-behind walkoff win last night .... sigh @#!@#!@ lol
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Re: Herrera behind the plate ; Burleson in, Walker out...tonight's lineup

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blackinkbiz wrote: 28 May 2025 11:10 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 28 May 2025 09:20 am
rockondlouie wrote: 28 May 2025 08:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 27 May 2025 15:44 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 27 May 2025 14:53 pm thx duce

Hererra should NOT be catching! :roll:
I guess if you’re going to have him at catcher it’s good to do it vs a team that is the 2nd worst base running team in baseball by fangraphs.
And even they got 3 SB's (of course not all 3 Hererra's fault but shows teams will run-run-run w/him behind the plate)

BTW, have you been paying attention to the Scrubs and how they're running wild?

Counsell has brought that running game w/him from the Brewers and their combo of HR's + SB's = top scoring team in MLB.

Meanwhile Oli keeping a tight reign on VSII who should be leading MLB in steals by now given his very good .346OB%. :roll:
And Cubs have the top 2 players in RB in baseball. Suzuki leading with 50 and Crow-Armstrong with 49 in 2nd. Not to mention Tucker at tied for 12th in baseball with 39. Our best? Contreras with 29 at Tied for 49th :roll:

Cubs have 5 players tied or ahead of our best in RBI. It’s ridiculous.
If Herrera doesn't stop swinging at those down-and-in pitches, his reign as MOTO bat may be short-lived. Also, I'm not gonna complain about a guy hitting .350 with an OPS over 1.000 but wth is his power? He hasn't homered since that 3-homer game over a month ago.

And the Cubs have got to come back down to earth at some point--I hope? 8O They're on pace for almost 1,000 runs. It's either one of those "magical seasons" or the Cards are just gonna have to focus on the WC considering they have the softest schedule in MLB although we do face them 13 times. Another come-from-behind walkoff win last night .... sigh @#!@#!@ lol
You may have missed his May 12th HR.

Even still, since his last HR, he’s hitting .362/.426/.426 with 11 RBI and 9 runs in 13 games. That ain’t bad.

Interesting thing about the Cubs is how they are tormenting relievers, but rather pedestrian vs SP’s.

Vs SPs: .241/.314/.432
Vs RPs: .287/.360/.473
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