Cardinals are in pretty good shape at first base

[Shady]

Shady-guy, your hero had a good game today. But there is not one aspect of his game that even matches, much less exceeds WC game. Burleson closer to Salvador Perez running speed than WC.

One aspect. " Contreras has a much higher strikeout rate than Burleson? That's one aspect.

[CorneliusWolfe]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Not sure how you measure astute, but Burley is in the 4th percentile in sprint speed, WC is in the 51st. Willson would kill him in a race.

The thing with Marshall is...you can give him all the supporting data which is available and he'll just ignore it. In his eyes Burly is faster and has had a much more productive career than Contreras.

Frenchy, "your boy" is very, very vulnerable to the strike out against really good RHP. More so than Burleson. Why can't you admit that?

An out is an out. Who cares?

Here's all that matters....

Contreras career 117 OPS+ & 27.1 fWAR.
Burleson career 97 OPS+ & 0.6 fWAR.

Everything else is just White Noise!

Shady-Guy, “your boy” is very, very vulnerable to being a below average scrub. Below average OPS+. 4th percentile speed. Horrendous defense. Useless against LHP. Why can’t you admit that?

[CorneliusWolfe]

Shady-guy, your hero had a good game today. But there is not one aspect of his game that even matches, much less exceeds WC game. Burleson closer to Salvador Perez running speed than WC.

One aspect. " Contreras has a much higher strikeout rate than Burleson? That's one aspect.

Aaron Judge - career strikeout rate 28%. Who cares? Better than hitting into double plays because of 4th percentile speed. Or popping up loudly.

Contreras 3 all-star selections. Burleson will never be selected.

[Monsieur De Treville]

Contreras simply strikes out too much to be considered a great player. IMO

Aaron Judge strikes out more often than Contreras...so using your logic, he's not a great player?

Reggie Jackson struck out more than any hitter who ever lived...not a great player?

You're an idiot!!!

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today.

Burleson -
run scored percentage: 19%
extra base taken rate: 11%
baserunning value: 24th percentile

Contreras -
run scored percentage: 29%
extra base taken rate: 52%
baserunning value: 41st percentile

He'll ignore this compelling data. Will never admit he was wrong and then repeat this same nonsense again at a later time. It's what he does!

[IndCard75]

I can see Herrera taking over 1B when WC contract ends.

[RamFan08NY]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Burly has a role on this team, every team needs those role players, he knows his role, and is now producing at that role. No need to try and over analyze it. The good Cardinal teams always had them. Dane Iorg, Mike Ramsey, So Tacuchi, to name just a few off the top of my head. Sit back and enjoy his progress, he's adding value to the team.

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Burly has a role on this team, every team needs those role players, he knows his role, and is now producing at that role. No need to try and over analyze it. The good Cardinal teams always had them. Dane Iorg, Mike Ramsey, So Tacuchi, to name just a few off the top of my head. Sit back and enjoy his progress, he's adding value to the team.

Agree. Burly is a spot-starter and pinch hitter and as of late he is excelling in this role.

But it's not good enough for Shady! He'd rather opine that Burly is a faster runner than Brock with more power than Pujols and a better glove than Hernandez!

[Shady]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Burly has a role on this team, every team needs those role players, he knows his role, and is now producing at that role. No need to try and over analyze it. The good Cardinal teams always had them. Dane Iorg, Mike Ramsey, So Tacuchi, to name just a few off the top of my head. Sit back and enjoy his progress, he's adding value to the team.

Agree. Burly is a spot-starter and pinch hitter and as of late he is excelling in this role.

But it's not good enough for Shady! He'd rather opine that Burly is a faster runner than Brock with more power than Pujols and a better glove than Hernandez!

Burleson is more than a "spot-starter". He is an integral part of the lineup vs RHP. I like both Contreras and Burleson. However, Contreras is slightly over-rated and Burleson is under-rated by many CT posters. For the record, I wasn't thrilled by Burleson's hitting the latter part of last season and the first part of this season. But, Burleson is quite valuable to the organization considering salary/production. IMO

[rockondlouie]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

[fork] off.

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Burly has a role on this team, every team needs those role players, he knows his role, and is now producing at that role. No need to try and over analyze it. The good Cardinal teams always had them. Dane Iorg, Mike Ramsey, So Tacuchi, to name just a few off the top of my head. Sit back and enjoy his progress, he's adding value to the team.

Agree. Burly is a spot-starter and pinch hitter and as of late he is excelling in this role.

But it's not good enough for Shady! He'd rather opine that Burly is a faster runner than Brock with more power than Pujols and a better glove than Hernandez!

Burleson is more than a "spot-starter". He is an integral part of the lineup vs RHP. I like both Contreras and Burleson. However, Contreras is slightly over-rated and Burleson is under-rated by many CT posters. For the record, I wasn't thrilled by Burleson's hitting the latter part of last season and the first part of this season. But, Burleson is quite valuable to the organization considering salary/production. IMO

If he only plays against RH pitchers, wouldn't that be the very definition of a "spot-starter"?