Cardinals are in pretty good shape at first base

[Shady]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

[Cusecards]

Yes
Contreras has been better defensively than I expected.
Burleson is a solid backup and provides a LH alternative.

[scoutyjones2]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

[fork] off.

[Mort Gage]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

[fork] off.

Agreed

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

[Shady]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Not sure how you measure astute, but Burley is in the 4th percentile in sprint speed, WC is in the 51st. Willson would kill him in a race.

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Contreras is much faster, better base runner, and better hitter. I'd give you supporting data, but you would simply ignore it.

Burly had a nice game. Enjoy it. But I wouldn't get too cocky...after all...your boy is just a part-time player!

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Not sure how you measure astute, but Burley is in the 4th percentile in sprint speed, WC is in the 51st. Willson would kill him in a race.

The thing with Marshall is...you can give him all the supporting data which is available and he'll just ignore it. In his eyes Burly is faster and has had a much more productive career than Contreras.

[Shady]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Not sure how you measure astute, but Burley is in the 4th percentile in sprint speed, WC is in the 51st. Willson would kill him in a race.

The thing with Marshall is...you can give him all the supporting data which is available and he'll just ignore it. In his eyes Burly is faster and has had a much more productive career than Contreras.

Frenchy, "your boy" is very, very vulnerable to the strike out against really good RHP. More so than Burleson. Why can't you admit that?

[Monsieur De Treville]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today. By the way, I feel Burleson is a better clutch hitter late in the game than Contreras against a stud RH closer. Contreras is too vulnerable to the strikeout. JMO Should Burleson have been better off selling insurance today than hitting for the Cardinals like you suggested? LOL

Not sure how you measure astute, but Burley is in the 4th percentile in sprint speed, WC is in the 51st. Willson would kill him in a race.

The thing with Marshall is...you can give him all the supporting data which is available and he'll just ignore it. In his eyes Burly is faster and has had a much more productive career than Contreras.

Frenchy, "your boy" is very, very vulnerable to the strike out against really good RHP. More so than Burleson. Why can't you admit that?

An out is an out. Who cares?

Here's all that matters....

Contreras career 117 OPS+ & 27.1 fWAR.
Burleson career 97 OPS+ & 0.6 fWAR.

Everything else is just White Noise!

[Adam2]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burleson is a solid backup. Good to see him playing better

[ecleme22]

I agree.

Contreras is great.

Who else are we talking about?

[Shady]

Contreras simply strikes out too much to be considered a great player. IMO

[CorneliusWolfe]

Shady-guy, your hero had a good game today. But there is not one aspect of his game that even matches, much less exceeds WC game. Burleson closer to Salvador Perez running speed than WC.

[An Old Friend]

With Contreras and Burleson. Both are above average, defensively. Offensively, wish Contreras wouldn't srtike out so much and Burleson would hit for more power. But both seem to be very popular team players.

Burly is a good backup. He'll never be the star you predicted, but he may keep his job as a scrub for a few years until his lack of conditioning leads his body to fail as he enters his 30's.

Are you you absolutely positive Contreras is faster and more astute than Burleson running the bases? I'm not. Ex. Burly running the bases today.

Burleson -
run scored percentage: 19%
extra base taken rate: 11%
baserunning value: 24th percentile

Contreras -
run scored percentage: 29%
extra base taken rate: 52%
baserunning value: 41st percentile