So haters, how exactly do we quantify if moving Nado down worked?

[peterman'srealitytour]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

That’s a technical, wordsmithy way of saying coloring book expert and connect the dots strategist.

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

Lol, how do you know what makes a team hot or cools them off? Maybe moving Willson Contreras down and Winn into the second spot gave them a boost. Maybe Herrera coming back and seeing good pitches in the 6th spot was it. Can the offense, defense, team moral and confidence effect pitching performances? So can you answer my question? How are things so much better now?

They aren’t but i know enough about baseball and am intelligent enough to know that they were never going to continue winning 13 of every 15 games no matter where Arenado batted apparently you are too dumb to understand that. You’re whole judgment was unless they continue winning at that pace it’s a failure that’s dumb just dumb they were never going to keep winning like that no matter what

Oh, I know no team can't maintain that level of performance for a whole season or even most of it. I also know you start making adjustments and tinkering with stuff when you are not winning like that. Seems like common sense to me. Dumb is messing with the success and fixing things that are winning, making everyone happy and getting to the goal. Is your smart move doing that genius?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

That’s a technical, wordsmithy way of saying coloring book expert and connect the dots strategist.

lol +1 hes got tin foil hats

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

Yeah right, haven't you ever heard the expression the customer is always right? Business always change practices and ways of doing things to appease their customers. It is good business and policy in a lot of ways. Especially when the business is struggling with support and attendance compared to near past. One of their top goals, if not the highest is to keep fans happy.

If that were true oli and Mo would have been fired already

I think you all have seen Mr. Mo to the door, the club is doing it in a classy respectful way but you all have gotten what you want, he is out like Matheny and Shildt who you all hated on too. So it actually just proves my theory more that manager oli and Nado would appease you haters so they don't get the Mo, Carpenter, Fowler etc hate also.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

Yeah right, haven't you ever heard the expression the customer is always right? Business always change practices and ways of doing things to appease their customers. It is good business and policy in a lot of ways. Especially when the business is struggling with support and attendance compared to near past. One of their top goals, if not the highest is to keep fans happy.

If that were true oli and Mo would have been fired already

I think you all have seen Mr. Mo to the door, the club is doing it in a classy respectful way but you all have gotten what you want, he is out like Matheny and Shildt who you all hated on too. So it actually just proves my theory more that manager oli and Nado would appease you haters so they don't get the Mo, Carpenter, Fowler etc hate also.

They could still drop your boy two more spots, he is officially Mr. Pop Up.

[desertrat23]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

Yeah right, haven't you ever heard the expression the customer is always right? Business always change practices and ways of doing things to appease their customers. It is good business and policy in a lot of ways. Especially when the business is struggling with support and attendance compared to near past. One of their top goals, if not the highest is to keep fans happy.

If that were true oli and Mo would have been fired already

I think you all have seen Mr. Mo to the door, the club is doing it in a classy respectful way but you all have gotten what you want, he is out like Matheny and Shildt who you all hated on too. So it actually just proves my theory more that manager oli and Nado would appease you haters so they don't get the Mo, Carpenter, Fowler etc hate also.

Just how big is the tin foil hat u wear

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

[desertrat23]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

[Goldfan]

I have great confidence that if he were placed on the Rockies hitting 9th……that he’d be the League MVP. He’s the most non clutch big game pressure choker I’ve seen in quite awhile……I have more confidence in Pages or Pozo to get that hit the team needs…..

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

What do you want? This is the big leagues, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Braves, Scrubs, Brewers, D-Backs, Giants, fans etc in just the National League want to win also. What makes you so much better fans than those teams? Your constant whining and call for boycotting the club? Bashing on players and lack of support?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

What do you want? This is the big leagues, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Braves, Scrubs, Brewers, D-Backs, Giants, fans etc in just the National League want to win also. What makes you so much better fans than those teams? Your constant whining and call for boycotting the club? Bashing on players and lack of support?

You’re bashing management for moving a player who sucks and knew he should be moved from cleanup up from batting fourth. What makes you a better fan for bashing them for that than fans who bash them for them other things? You’re a clown

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

What do you want? This is the big leagues, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Braves, Scrubs, Brewers, D-Backs, Giants, fans etc in just the National League want to win also. What makes you so much better fans than those teams? Your constant whining and call for boycotting the club? Bashing on players and lack of support?

You’re bashing management for moving a player who sucks and knew he should be moved from cleanup up from batting fourth. What makes you a better fan for bashing them for that than fans who bash them for them other things? You’re a clown

I'm not buying your premise for 2 reasons. I've never bashed on the manger and team for lineup decisions and I'm not convinced they wanted to do it. I'm bashing on haters who wanted to fix things when they were not broken and want to know if their fix is working. It doesn't seem to be to me. For like the forth time can you explain how it is working? Put on your weirdo tin foil hat and do please explain how all your bashing of moving Nado has made this team any better recently.

[Ozziesfan41]

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

What do you want? This is the big leagues, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Braves, Scrubs, Brewers, D-Backs, Giants, fans etc in just the National League want to win also. What makes you so much better fans than those teams? Your constant whining and call for boycotting the club? Bashing on players and lack of support?

You’re bashing management for moving a player who sucks and knew he should be moved from cleanup up from batting fourth. What makes you a better fan for bashing them for that than fans who bash them for them other things? You’re a clown

I'm not buying your premise for 2 reasons. I've never bashed on the manger and team for lineup decisions and I'm not convinced they wanted to do it. I'm bashing on haters who wanted to fix things when they were not broken and want to know if their fix is working. It doesn't seem to be to me. For like the forth time can you explain how it is working? Put on your weirdo tin foil hat and do please explain how all your bashing of moving Nado has made this team any better recently.

Can you explain to me how you expected them to continue to win 13 of every 15 games and never lose another series and how they won 11-4 the first game they made the move? Did they forget when they scored 11 runs that he wasn’t batting fourth and then the last two games realized uh oh Arenado isn’t batting fourth anymore we need to lose now lol I mean u have to realize how dumb that theory is? Can you explain how they were 14-19 with Arenado batting fourth and then since that is the only reason they had the winning streak? You are a joke

[Ronnie Dobbs]

I've learned that it's always a great idea to judge something like this in baseball in just three games.

[Ozziesfan41]

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

You’ve got to be kidding. This organization is so bad at PR and tone-deaf to what its paying customers want that they’ve hemorrhaged paying customers by the hundreds of thousands over the past few years. You think they do ANYTHING as a preventative PR action to appease a small (or even a large) group of people?

Yup! In the recent past it might not have seemed like it so much. You have to remember also the fans are all over the place on what they want too. This Nado lineup thing is like a 98% to 2% kind of a no trainer for them. When things are that easy, it's easy to appease. There is also the fact a lot of these "fans" are unrealistic in their demands as wanting things that can't be done. The Cardinals staff and this ownership and management are extremely good at managing the PR and taking care of their customers. You have to have huge support and attendance to have "hemorraged" it. Back in the early 90s this club was more like the Reds and Royals today. Their attention to detail and customer service built a monster. The "fans" in a lot of ways have just become spoiled and complacent to it. Like America in a lot of ways, you don't really know how good you have it because you never had bad times or can hardly remember them.

They WERE extremely good at taking care of their customers, the. They got complacent. Imagine thinking the paying customers are spoiled.

What do you want? This is the big leagues, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies, Padres, Braves, Scrubs, Brewers, D-Backs, Giants, fans etc in just the National League want to win also. What makes you so much better fans than those teams? Your constant whining and call for boycotting the club? Bashing on players and lack of support?

You’re bashing management for moving a player who sucks and knew he should be moved from cleanup up from batting fourth. What makes you a better fan for bashing them for that than fans who bash them for them other things? You’re a clown

I'm not buying your premise for 2 reasons. I've never bashed on the manger and team for lineup decisions and I'm not convinced they wanted to do it. I'm bashing on haters who wanted to fix things when they were not broken and want to know if their fix is working. It doesn't seem to be to me. For like the forth time can you explain how it is working? Put on your weirdo tin foil hat and do please explain how all your bashing of moving Nado has made this team any better recently.

Can you explain to me how you expected them to continue to win 13 of every 15 games and never lose another series and how they won 11-4 the first game they made the move? Did they forget when they scored 11 runs that he wasn’t batting fourth and then the last two games realized uh oh Arenado isn’t batting fourth anymore we need to lose now lol I mean u have to realize how dumb that theory is? Can you explain how they were 14-19 with Arenado batting fourth and then since that is the only reason they had the winning streak? You are a joke

Oh and by the way the cardinals are 6-1 when Gorman plays third so by ikes logic Arenado needs to be benched immediately and Gorman installed at third