So haters, how exactly do we quantify if moving Nado down worked?

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

Ask Arenado hes the one that recognized he wasn’t contributing enough in the four spot and that the players who were contributing more should be moved up

[3dender]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

He should be about right in the order now. If he continues to flail he may need to be dropped to 8,

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So the point of the game is who gets the most rbi out of the clean up spot? How would you know if Herrera wouldn't of got those RBI in the 6th spot and how it effects runs scored lower in the lineup? And even if your obvious truth is correct and they lose more, is that a big win for you?

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

I don’t understand what the big deal is with this. It is something that has happened throughout the history of the game. Stan Musial moved down in the order as he got older and his skills slipped. It’s not some grave insult.

And it’s not as if this is some out of nowhere decision. Arenado has pretty steadily declined offensively, particularly in regards to power, in his two years previous to this. It’s looking like this year is going to be a continuation of this. It’s not an insult to hit him 6th. Especially when you have others on the team that appear to be ascending and are playing much better this year.

[riff raff]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

you can't quantify it like that

[3dender]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So the point of the game is who gets the most rbi out of the clean up spot? How would you know if Herrera wouldn't of got those RBI in the 6th spot and how it effects runs scored lower in the lineup? And even if your obvious truth is correct and they lose more, is that a big win for you?

If they're scoring more runs and losing more, then that inherently means the pitching has fallen off quite a bit. This isn't calculus or even algebra it's just basic arithmetic.

So to answer your question, yes scoring more runs is a big win to me and it'll prove that dropping Arenado was correct. Losing games will not be a "big win," not sure that really needs to be said but I just wanted to answer your question no matter how dumb it may seem to me.

[3dender]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

you can't quantify it like that

Why not? It's not perfect obviously but it's a pretty good proxy.

[scoutyjones2]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So the point of the game is who gets the most rbi out of the clean up spot? How would you know if Herrera wouldn't of got those RBI in the 6th spot and how it effects runs scored lower in the lineup? And even if your obvious truth is correct and they lose more, is that a big win for you?

GoNado isn't hitting or getting on base...

Last 7 games: 179/194/310/504

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So the point of the game is who gets the most rbi out of the clean up spot? How would you know if Herrera wouldn't of got those RBI in the 6th spot and how it effects runs scored lower in the lineup? And even if your obvious truth is correct and they lose more, is that a big win for you?

The point of the game is get your best batters more at bats not fewer. I mean oli could bat the pitcher instead of
The DH and they may play well in a small sample size but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to continue to do it. Even Arenado saw what you and oli couldn’t see and that’s he wasn’t getting the job done

[riff raff]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

you can't quantify it like that

Why not? It's not perfect obviously but it's a pretty good proxy.

Too many variables, way too many. Now if Willson starts banging at a 100 rbi pace you may have something.
Anyway, its a good move and a little overdue but Nado deserves some respect.

[peterman'srealitytour]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

I don’t understand what the big deal is with this. It is something that has happened throughout the history of the game. Stan Musial moved down in the order as he got older and his skills slipped. It’s not some grave insult.

And it’s not as if this is some out of nowhere decision. Arenado has pretty steadily declined offensively, particularly in regards to power, in his two years previous to this. It’s looking like this year is going to be a continuation of this. It’s not an insult to hit him 6th. Especially when you have others on the team that appear to be ascending and are playing much better this year.

It’s not a big deal. The OP has some time to kill. Middle school is out for the summer yet not quite hot enough to set up his lemonade stand yet.

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

you can't quantify it like that

Why not? It's not perfect obviously but it's a pretty good proxy.

Too many variables, way too many. Now if Willson starts banging at a 100 rbi pace you may have something.
Anyway, its a good move and a little overdue but Nado deserves some respect.

For sure my respect for Arenado went way up it couldn’t be easy for him to swallow his pride and take the blow to the ego and do what oli wasn’t smart enough to do and get moved lower in the order. He recognized that he wasn’t getting it done and there were better players who probably could kudos to him

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

[sdaltons]

What are you hoping to get out of this thread and why is it only the "haters" that can give it to you?