They have the depth to withstand losing any of those names and Skenes is a 22 year old ace.
Hypothetically what would it take?
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Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
If Burly goes then Shady has to go with him3dender wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:52 pmOf course feel free to toss in Burleson... please lord include himFuturegm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:32 pmYea, I was thinking that about Mathews, too.3dender wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:23 pm For me Mathews is untouchable but everyone else is on the table.
I don't have access to BTV anymore but I think any package would have to start with Wetherholt + Hence + Walker/Gorman. Not sure if I would go much of significance after that, except for maybe one of Crooks/Bernal/Rodriguez.
Looking at the trade boards, it looks like Skenes BTV is 94.8.
And some names
Gorman 10.6
Crooks 12.2
Wetherholt 41.3
Hence 10.2
Walker 0 (as of 5/17)
Saggese 15.4
Burleson 9.6
Mathews 27.6
So obviously it would have to be centered around Wetherholt.![]()
Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
They'd hang up immediately. Matthews just got hurt. Gorman is a huge ? Hence is injury-riddled. Rodriguez too far away. Walker another huge ? But JJ, they'd probably want.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:13 pm https://x.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1922734797446660354
Talking about the possibility of the Pirates trading Paul Skenes this summer. I don’t think it’d happen, but it is interesting to think about.
Walker/Wetherholt
Mathews
Gorman
Hence/Rainiel Rodriguez
Is it feasible that we might be in a position to be a player? He’s so young still and the idea of him, Gray, and Libby come playoff time would look really great.
More like
Herrera (gotta trade a budding star in a package to get a superstar)/JJ
McGreevy
Saggese
Bernal/Crooks
Bottom line: They would ask far too much for BDW's liking. And he'd have to pay Skenes a fortune to keep him. Not in the Cards so to speak.
Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
Less than zero chance with that offer. Even if you included all 6Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:13 pm https://x.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1922734797446660354
Talking about the possibility of the Pirates trading Paul Skenes this summer. I don’t think it’d happen, but it is interesting to think about.
Walker/Wetherholt
Mathews
Gorman
Hence/Rainiel Rodriguez
Is it feasible that we might be in a position to be a player? He’s so young still and the idea of him, Gray, and Libby come playoff time would look really great.
Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
I’d probably push for JJ and someone over Saggese but that would be a package I’d do. Would be a lot less high end ceiling talent than my OP.icon wrote: ↑20 May 2025 18:06 pmThey'd hang up immediately. Matthews just got hurt. Gorman is a huge ? Hence is injury-riddled. Rodriguez too far away. Walker another huge ? But JJ, they'd probably want.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑20 May 2025 15:13 pm https://x.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1922734797446660354
Talking about the possibility of the Pirates trading Paul Skenes this summer. I don’t think it’d happen, but it is interesting to think about.
Walker/Wetherholt
Mathews
Gorman
Hence/Rainiel Rodriguez
Is it feasible that we might be in a position to be a player? He’s so young still and the idea of him, Gray, and Libby come playoff time would look really great.
More like
Herrera (gotta trade a budding star in a package to get a superstar)/JJ
McGreevy
Saggese
Bernal/Crooks
Bottom line: They would ask far too much for BDW's liking. And he'd have to pay Skenes a fortune to keep him. Not in the Cards so to speak.
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Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
No way would I pkg all the top prospects for a pitcher that they won't be able to retain. The Cardinals will not pony up and give big contracts to Skenes, when you also have the likes of Liberatore, Herrera, Winn, McGreevy, Scott, Donovan all in line for contracts.
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Re: Hypothetically what would it take?
I saw this too and they had him going to the scrubbies who they claim had the best haul of prospects to offer. 
The Cardinals offer would start with:
Hererra
JJW
QM
ect.............
But here's the real problem:
As soon as he hit free agency, he's GONE!
BDWJr would never, ever, ever pay what he's going to command on the open market.

The Cardinals offer would start with:
Hererra
JJW
QM
ect.............
But here's the real problem:
As soon as he hit free agency, he's GONE!
BDWJr would never, ever, ever pay what he's going to command on the open market.