CT poll- Rose in/out

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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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Baseball Hall of FAME…..is he famous for playing baseball with most hits all-time??
Not hall of righteousness, dignity, truth, morality,
Y’all put way too much thought into scrutinizing the life outside the diamond. Is he being elected pope??
Plenty of “bad dudes” in the hall……go review and eliminate or stick to his stats.
If MLB says he’s no longer banned why are you contradicting that?
Wasn’t enshrined during his life…..but even in death you’ll condemn a man for “activities around a game”
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Goldfan wrote: 14 May 2025 10:41 am Baseball Hall of FAME…..is he famous for playing baseball with most hits all-time??
Not hall of righteousness, dignity, truth, morality,
Y’all put way too much thought into scrutinizing the life outside the diamond. Is he being elected pope??
Plenty of “bad dudes” in the hall……go review and eliminate or stick to his stats.
If MLB says he’s no longer banned why are you contradicting that?
Wasn’t enshrined during his life…..but even in death you’ll condemn a man for “activities around a game”
Does it take a death to learn what a life was worth.
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Cranny wrote: 14 May 2025 09:45 am In. As I recall, when he bet on his own team, he only bet on them to win.
Which if true is even more of a reason to ban him. Is that how he communicated to other gamblers? If i’m not betting on them today so you shouldn’t. Why was he not betting on them today? Did he run his bullpen in the ground trying to win the last two games he bet on? But by all means let this overrated P[ositively] O[bnoxious] S[impleton] of a ballplayer in while actual generational stars like Bonds are vilified .
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 May 2025 10:42 am
Goldfan wrote: 14 May 2025 10:41 am Baseball Hall of FAME…..is he famous for playing baseball with most hits all-time??
Not hall of righteousness, dignity, truth, morality,
Y’all put way too much thought into scrutinizing the life outside the diamond. Is he being elected pope??
Plenty of “bad dudes” in the hall……go review and eliminate or stick to his stats.
If MLB says he’s no longer banned why are you contradicting that?
Wasn’t enshrined during his life…..but even in death you’ll condemn a man for “activities around a game”
Does it take a death to learn what a life was worth.
There’s some questionable circumstances around Michael Jordan and his “Baseball career” during his peak basketball career…..and yet he was allowed to be King of Court and still is
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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rockondlouie wrote: 14 May 2025 09:00 am In

As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.

Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
Agreed. If you let steroid freaks in you might as well let everybody in
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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I vote for: IN.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 May 2025 08:41 am Good morning

This is an exercise in discipline. Just one word answer. Keep it simple silly.

IN....should've been in 20 years ago.

Bonds should be in as well.

Any baseball hall of fame that does not include the all time hits leader and the all time home runs leader isn't a baseball hall of fame.
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lined2left wrote: 14 May 2025 10:53 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 May 2025 08:41 am Good morning

This is an exercise in discipline. Just one word answer. Keep it simple silly.

IN....should've been in 20 years ago.

Bonds should be in as well.

Any baseball hall of fame that does not include the all time hits leader and the all time home runs leader isn't a baseball hall of fame.
Exactly,
Did Rose throw a game?
Are Bonds records recognized by the governing entity of the sport?
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In
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The second 16 votes on CT stands at 10-4 In. Total tally of 24-6 In. 80 percent.
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In...

But since the HOF is a museum then it should be historically accurate and talk about the transgressions that occurred.

"Prior to be elected to the HOF, Rose served a life-time ban from baseball for betting until his death..."

Something like that.
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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WLTFE wrote: 14 May 2025 10:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 14 May 2025 09:41 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 14 May 2025 09:24 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 14 May 2025 09:17 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 14 May 2025 09:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 May 2025 09:00 am In

As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.

Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
412-373 Managerial Record

All 4 full seasons above .500.
In/out
Twisted SBD

He absolutely belongs in. I just don't want him in now because it isn't about honoring Rose, it is about Manfred garnering attention and media hype over a dead legend. This should have been done years ago when Pete could stand up, speak, and atone for his transgressions during a speech on a stage in Cooperstown.
I disagree. I saw the ban as lifetime and his capitulating after 20 years of lies doesn't erase that. He came out to sell his book. Now he's dead, he can be voted in

Didn't deserve to see himself make the HOF
+1...he's dead, still don’t want him in...and that he only bet on his team to win is bull[shirt]...he [fork]ing lied for 20 years.
I tend to agree with this.

And as far as whoever said “since steroid freaks are in, so should Rose be in”, I disagree.

Fat Papi got in, but:
Manny Ramirez - no
Barry Bonds - no
Mark McGwire - no
Roger Clemens - no
Gary Sheffield -no
Sammy Sosa - no
Rafael Palmeiro - no

Nor should they be.

Just like Rose.

All IMO.
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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Ok. The second 16 votes are in. 11-5 In- not enough for induction.

Panel one selected 14-2
Panel two did not select 11-5.

Overall tally. 25-7 about 77 percent. 75 needed for selection.

working now on third panel of 16 votes.
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 14 May 2025 10:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 May 2025 09:00 am In

As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.

Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
Agreed. If you let steroid freaks in you might as well let everybody in
Which proven steroid freaks other than Fat Papi are in?
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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Bomber1 wrote: 14 May 2025 11:41 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 14 May 2025 10:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 May 2025 09:00 am In

As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.

Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
Agreed. If you let steroid freaks in you might as well let everybody in
Which proven steroid freaks other than Fat Papi are in?
I'll chime in: suspicions about Jeff Bagwell and Mike Piazza.

I also suspect Nolan Ryan (look at the rebound late in his career, and consider some of his Ranger teammates) and Cal Ripken Jr. (hard to believe he could play all those games and innings without assistance)
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Re: CT poll- Rose in/out

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In…along with Shoeless Joe.
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