If it said he gambled on baseball would the casual fan even care anymore. Everything is gambling.
CT poll- Rose in/out
Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 966
- Joined: 23 May 2024 12:41 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
In
His play speaks for itself.
First Ballot Unanimous HOF.
Only thing keeping him out was MLB.
If they say ok then ok.
His play speaks for itself.
First Ballot Unanimous HOF.
Only thing keeping him out was MLB.
If they say ok then ok.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 12037
- Joined: 11 Aug 2023 16:20 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
In/outBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:13 am412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 966
- Joined: 23 May 2024 12:41 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
Twisted SBDsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:17 amIn/outBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:13 am412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
He absolutely belongs in. I just don't want him in now because it isn't about honoring Rose, it is about Manfred garnering attention and media hype over a dead legend. This should have been done years ago when Pete could stand up, speak, and atone for his transgressions during a speech on a stage in Cooperstown.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 12037
- Joined: 11 Aug 2023 16:20 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
Do not be that way. You hold an angst you have no control over- big money. They don’t live like you and me. Different breed of human.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:24 amTwisted SBDsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:17 amIn/outBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:13 am412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
He absolutely belongs in. I just don't want him in now because it isn't about honoring Rose, it is about Manfred garnering attention and media hype over a dead legend. This should have been done years ago when Pete could stand up, speak, and atone for his transgressions during a speech on a stage in Cooperstown.
Let him in for sake of the casual fan.
Release.
Or
You could just burn one. Ha.
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
Atonement isn't something that happens in a speech, especially after decades of minimizing your transgressions and playing the victim.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:24 amTwisted SBDsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:17 amIn/outBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:13 am412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
He absolutely belongs in. I just don't want him in now because it isn't about honoring Rose, it is about Manfred garnering attention and media hype over a dead legend. This should have been done years ago when Pete could stand up, speak, and atone for his transgressions during a speech on a stage in Cooperstown.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 461
- Joined: 23 May 2024 14:55 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
Let's get an expose of gambling owners going too.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 966
- Joined: 23 May 2024 12:41 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
That is something that we will never know. Plus, there has been plenty of atonement over the years.
I have heard him plenty of times acknowledging his wrongs.
Sanctimony is abound in regards to Pete Rose.
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
HOF is a museum. I've been there twice. I doubt it changes anyone's life that much. I love those fans who say they are going to disown baseball because Rose isn't in the HOF. Please!!
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
No, I mean literally... atonement is an act, it's not words in a speech. The definition is "reparation for a wrong or injury." A speech isn't reparation.Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:33 amThat is something that we will never know. Plus, there has been plenty of atonement over the years.
Any jerk can get up on a stage and say pretty, sorry-sounding words. It means jack, unless you think people never lie.
So yes, we can and do know that atonement isn't something that happens in a speech.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 6164
- Joined: 23 May 2024 14:43 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
I disagree. I saw the ban as lifetime and his capitulating after 20 years of lies doesn't erase that. He came out to sell his book. Now he's dead, he can be voted inBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:24 amTwisted SBDsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:17 amIn/outBasil Shabazz wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:13 am412-373 Managerial Recordrockondlouie wrote: ↑14 May 2025 09:00 am In
As a player he's a slam dunk, 1st ballot Hall of Famer and that's what he's going in for not his managing which s u c k e d.
Once the Hall started letting STEROID freaks in, there was no reason to exclude Rose the Player anymore.
All 4 full seasons above .500.
He absolutely belongs in. I just don't want him in now because it isn't about honoring Rose, it is about Manfred garnering attention and media hype over a dead legend. This should have been done years ago when Pete could stand up, speak, and atone for his transgressions during a speech on a stage in Cooperstown.
Didn't deserve to see himself make the HOF
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
In. As I recall, when he bet on his own team, he only bet on them to win.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 6164
- Joined: 23 May 2024 14:43 pm
Re: CT poll- Rose in/out
Yes, because he could do things to lose.