Good position?

[Youboughtit]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

No it doesn't

Yes it does. You’re thinking of 20 years ago. There are far more sellers than buyers. First to the market gets the deal. Others end up with nothing.

[Youboughtit]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

[nighthawk]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

I'm not seeing a boatload of trades in May. It seems to me that teams are pretty desperate to acquire talent closer to tbe deadline to improve their chances in post season.

[blackinkbiz]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

With all due respect, you sound exactly like the thousands of idiots inundating Blues forums this past season. All season long it was "Blues aren't real contenders! The re-tool's a bust--give it up now for a total rebuild! Trade everyone for top-5 picks!"

2 months of good hockey later and 2 seconds away from winning the first round against the best team in the regular season and the Blues look like an up-and-coming powerhouse with a terrific mix of vets and young talent.

Ever wonder why NO team has a firesale in May? Because no team and no one, least of all internet trolls, are certain of their season's outcome 1/4 of the way in. Get over yourself and go back to your bridge, troll-lah-lah.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

I'm not seeing a boatload of trades in May. It seems to me that teams are pretty desperate to acquire talent closer to tbe deadline to improve their chances in post season.

There are a few teams with desperate situations rignt now. The Orioles starting pitching, the Red Sox at 1B, and the Diamondbacks at closer come to mind. They either aren't trying to make a trade, or can't find a partner right now.

[ecleme22]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

Yep.

The only way you make a trade in May is like what the Brewers/Rays did 4 years ago. Both teams making deals to get better this year.

[Youboughtit]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

With all due respect, you sound exactly like the thousands of idiots inundating Blues forums this past season. All season long it was "Blues aren't real contenders! The re-tool's a bust--give it up now for a total rebuild! Trade everyone for top-5 picks!"

2 months of good hockey later and 2 seconds away from winning the first round against the best team in the regular season and the Blues look like an up-and-coming powerhouse with a terrific mix of vets and young talent.

Ever wonder why NO team has a firesale in May? Because no team and no one, least of all internet trolls, are certain of their season's outcome 1/4 of the way in. Get over yourself and go back to your bridge, troll-lah-lah.

Did the Blues win the Cup? The Blues are far ahead of the Cardinals in regards to catching the top teams. The Cardinals are nowhere near a legit WS contender and this roster is at its best a WC contender. Maybe you should expect more. How do they get to be a top 5 team? More great young talent. The cost? A 200m payroll or trade some of the old assets to get the pipeline full. But the biggest diffeeence is the Blues did not have a large number of pending FA that were preforming well enough to trade. If they did I guarantee they would have keen moved. That’s what good GMs do

[Youboughtit]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

I'm not seeing a boatload of trades in May. It seems to me that teams are pretty desperate to acquire talent closer to tbe deadline to improve their chances in post season.

Not today but coming soon. It’s time to start talking. Trades take time. Start the talks when the expiring players are playing well.

[11WSChamps]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

With all due respect, you sound exactly like the thousands of idiots inundating Blues forums this past season. All season long it was "Blues aren't real contenders! The re-tool's a bust--give it up now for a total rebuild! Trade everyone for top-5 picks!"

2 months of good hockey later and 2 seconds away from winning the first round against the best team in the regular season and the Blues look like an up-and-coming powerhouse with a terrific mix of vets and young talent.

Ever wonder why NO team has a firesale in May? Because no team and no one, least of all internet trolls, are certain of their season's outcome 1/4 of the way in. Get over yourself and go back to your bridge, troll-lah-lah.

Apples and oranges.

You're talking about a salary cap league vs one that isn't.

[Youboughtit]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

With all due respect, you sound exactly like the thousands of idiots inundating Blues forums this past season. All season long it was "Blues aren't real contenders! The re-tool's a bust--give it up now for a total rebuild! Trade everyone for top-5 picks!"

2 months of good hockey later and 2 seconds away from winning the first round against the best team in the regular season and the Blues look like an up-and-coming powerhouse with a terrific mix of vets and young talent.

Ever wonder why NO team has a firesale in May? Because no team and no one, least of all internet trolls, are certain of their season's outcome 1/4 of the way in. Get over yourself and go back to your bridge, troll-lah-lah.

Apples and oranges.

You're talking about a salary cap league vs one that isn't.

Blues did not have pending FA with trade value and were further along in rebuild. Cardinals have many holes that need addressed and the owner does not want to spend.

[scoutyjones2]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

No it doesn't

Yes it does. You’re thinking of 20 years ago. There are far more sellers than buyers. First to the market gets the deal. Others end up with nothing.

No. You're weong

[scoutyjones2]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

I'm not seeing a boatload of trades in May. It seems to me that teams are pretty desperate to acquire talent closer to tbe deadline to improve their chances in post season.

There are a few teams with desperate situations rignt now. The Orioles starting pitching, the Red Sox at 1B, and the Diamondbacks at closer come to mind. They either aren't trying to make a trade, or can't find a partner right now.

1/4 of a season isn't time to be desperate

[11WSChamps]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

With all due respect, you sound exactly like the thousands of idiots inundating Blues forums this past season. All season long it was "Blues aren't real contenders! The re-tool's a bust--give it up now for a total rebuild! Trade everyone for top-5 picks!"

2 months of good hockey later and 2 seconds away from winning the first round against the best team in the regular season and the Blues look like an up-and-coming powerhouse with a terrific mix of vets and young talent.

Ever wonder why NO team has a firesale in May? Because no team and no one, least of all internet trolls, are certain of their season's outcome 1/4 of the way in. Get over yourself and go back to your bridge, troll-lah-lah.

Apples and oranges.

You're talking about a salary cap league vs one that isn't.

Blues did not have pending FA with trade value and were further along in rebuild. Cardinals have many holes that need addressed and the owner does not want to spend.

The Blues have players to build around..the Cardinals not so much.

[Carp4Cy]

The orioles are a great team to target -- full of upside young talent that currently isn't playing well.

Orioles and Real Contenders can't be used in the same sentence (or post) this month. Cards are much more of a contender than the O's are. We can keep those SPs and maybe extend Fedde.

[Carp4Cy]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

No it doesn't

Yes it does. You’re thinking of 20 years ago. There are far more sellers than buyers. First to the market gets the deal. Others end up with nothing.

Then we should become a buyer. By your logic, the talent out there is cheap because so many sellers can't find buyers and the remaining holes in this lineup can be easily filled.

[nighthawk]

Right. We're hitting on pretty much all cylinders, have the bullpen playing well, starters doing great, and only 2 games behind the Cubbies. So let's trade.

No kidding. Nobodies making significant trades in May

This team is NOT a contender. Matz Mikolas and Helsley are pending FA and Aranado is clearly not going to be here next season. There are so many holes to fill for the future how do you plan on doing it when spending is not an option? Holding pat would be the dumbest decision MO has ever made and that says alot. Bullpen is NOT playing well. The last 4 starters have went 7+ innings. They are bypassing the bullpen. Selling high is the smart move and I beleive teams that trade early will get the best results like last year. Waiting till deadline lessens the return.

Why does waiting till the deadline lessen the return??

Look at last 3 years. Few buyers (3-4) and once they are done the market dries up.

I'm not seeing a boatload of trades in May. It seems to me that teams are pretty desperate to acquire talent closer to tbe deadline to improve their chances in post season.

Not today but coming soon. It’s time to start talking. Trades take time. Start the talks when the expiring players are playing well.

I don't quite understand. The thread was initiated thusly...

The real contenders need SP and this is the perfect time to move the older pitchers Fedde Mikolas Matz and Gray and rebuild for the future.

"Perfect time" would seem reference now, which is May, and was later reinforced with "Waiting for the deadline lessens the return." Last year, there were nine trades in May, only one that was consequential in terms of value. From July 26th to the July 31st trade deadline there were 58 trades, many many of which were consequential in terms of value.