Would you consider?

[Futuregm2]

Never fails.

Mel once again trying to get rid of our best all round OF'er by throwing Noot into this deal.

And I'm so sure BDWJr would immediately signoff on absorbing Devers' 10 year, $313,500,000 contract ($42M deferred) that has eight yrs remaining on it.

Take Noot out and replace w/J. Walker plus BoSox send $40M ($5M/yr for remaining eight yrs) and sure I'd do it.

If not, then Huge PASS!

Please no. Walker would turn into a huge superstar in Boston and we’d never hear the end of it.

If we trade Walker, I hope it’s to somewhere like Miami or the White Sox or Twins where nobody cares.

[riff raff]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

[Melville]

I don't understand OP. Talks about Devers and Arenado giving us a strong middle of the lineup. Then offers Arenado in the trade package.

Typo.
My bad
Devers/Contreras in the middle.

[Melville]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

The existing toxicity over the past many years was all about bubble wrapping anointed players rather than assembling a roster capable of winning.
I don't care if a guy is vocal
I care if he produces.

[hugeCardfan]

Never fails.

Mel once again trying to get rid of our best all round OF'er by throwing Noot into this deal.

And I'm so sure BDWJr would immediately signoff on absorbing Devers' 10 year, $313,500,000 contract ($42M deferred) that has eight yrs remaining on it.

Take Noot out and replace w/J. Walker plus BoSox send $40M ($5M/yr for remaining eight yrs) and sure I'd do it.

If not, then Huge PASS!

Please no. Walker would turn into a huge superstar in Boston and we’d never hear the end of it.

If we trade Walker, I hope it’s to somewhere like Miami or the White Sox or Twins where nobody cares.

Everybody seems to care that we traded Sandy Alcantara and Gallen to Miami. I know I do.

[Futuregm2]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

The existing toxicity over the past many years was all about bubble wrapping anointed players rather than assembling a roster capable of winning.
I don't care if a guy is vocal
I care if he produces.

Isn’t Devers pretty much exactly what you’re talking about? He believes he is entitled to play 3B despite being (bleep) poor at the position and when the team loses their 1B for the season instead of getting on the field, he’d rather complain to the media about how the team has asked him to do oh so much.

[riff raff]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

The existing toxicity over the past many years was all about bubble wrapping anointed players rather than assembling a roster capable of winning.
I don't care if a guy is vocal
I care if he produces.

Ok, carry on then

[Melville]

Heck no. Devers is a “GOOD” player, but not the “RIGHT” player. Have we not learned that stats are not the total sum of a player’s worth regarding winning and losing. We finally have a group of team players that are enjoyable to watch. Let’s stick to the course we set out on.

Which is why I asked.
Not endorsing one way or the other
Simply curious at to what the fan base would be willing to do to add a quality bat with star power to the roster.
Is there an appetite.to add a marquee player?
Or instead, as you say, stay the course?
Risks and reward factors exist either way

[Futuregm2]

Heck no. Devers is a “GOOD” player, but not the “RIGHT” player. Have we not learned that stats are not the total sum of a player’s worth regarding winning and losing. We finally have a group of team players that are enjoyable to watch. Let’s stick to the course we set out on.

Which is why I asked.
Not endorsing one way or the other
Simply curious at to what the fan base would be willing to do to add a quality bat with star power to the roster.
Is there an appetite.to add a marquee player?
Or instead, as you say, stay the course?
Risks and reward factors exist either way

Well duh, everyone would love to add a marquee player. The issue is to my knowledge not a single soul on CT has any say in the matter, so that’s where we are at.

[Jatalk]

If you were POBO for STL would you consider a trade with Boston built around N/A and Devers?
Devers is actually quite affordable since he las a large sum of money deferred in each year of his contract.
Paired with Arenado, he would give STL a formidable middle order presence which they currently lack.
And from a business perspective, it would help bring fans back to the ballpark.
The potential fit is there.
Something along the lines of N/A, Mootbaar, Pozo, and Mikolas for Devers and Jhostynxon Garica.
Bottom line:
If you could add Devers' bat to the STL lineup for the next 8 years at little meaningful roster loss, would you?

No basically trading for DH. We need talented prospects not one dimensional players that might be head case.

[Melville]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

The existing toxicity over the past many years was all about bubble wrapping anointed players rather than assembling a roster capable of winning.
I don't care if a guy is vocal
I care if he produces.

Isn’t Devers pretty much exactly what you’re talking about? He believes he is entitled to play 3B despite being (bleep) poor at the position and when the team loses their 1B for the season instead of getting on the field, he’d rather complain to the media about how the team has asked him to do oh so much.

That's not quite accurate.
His objection was to taking on a 3rd different role just a quarter into the season.
He already agreed to move from 3B to DH duty - and is now asked to move to a completely new position at 1B mid-season.
Not a completely unreasonable point of view for him to have.
Remember, STL approached Contreras in somewhat similar circumstances and gave him and entire off-season to acclimate to the idea and the move
Devers did not create the situation in Boston.
The team did so through some poor roster construction

[Melville]

Heck no. Devers is a “GOOD” player, but not the “RIGHT” player. Have we not learned that stats are not the total sum of a player’s worth regarding winning and losing. We finally have a group of team players that are enjoyable to watch. Let’s stick to the course we set out on.

Which is why I asked.
Not endorsing one way or the other
Simply curious at to what the fan base would be willing to do to add a quality bat with star power to the roster.
Is there an appetite.to add a marquee player?
Or instead, as you say, stay the course?
Risks and reward factors exist either way

Well duh, everyone would love to add a marquee player. The issue is to my knowledge not a single soul on CT has any say in the matter, so that’s where we are at.

No, not everyone would welcome a marquee player at the expense of abandoning the current plan
Which is why the thread began with "would YOU consider?" as a way of obtaining individual views.

[Futuregm2]

I guess we're not worried about a toxic clubhouse any longer
Just another moo ville attention getting fail

The existing toxicity over the past many years was all about bubble wrapping anointed players rather than assembling a roster capable of winning.
I don't care if a guy is vocal
I care if he produces.

Isn’t Devers pretty much exactly what you’re talking about? He believes he is entitled to play 3B despite being (bleep) poor at the position and when the team loses their 1B for the season instead of getting on the field, he’d rather complain to the media about how the team has asked him to do oh so much.

That's not quite accurate.
His objection was to taking on a 3rd different role just a quarter into the season.
He already agreed to move from 3B to DH duty - and is now asked to move to a completely new position at 1B mid-season.
Not a completely unreasonable point of view for him to have.
Remember, STL approached Contreras in somewhat similar circumstances and gave him and entire off-season to acclimate to the idea and the move
Devers did not create the situation in Boston.
The team did so through some poor roster construction

Well, it was when their 1B went down for the season. Had their 1B not gotten hurt for the year they wouldn’t be in this situation. If you’re a teammate who wants to help the team win and there isn’t another good player out there to fill in for the 1B, then you jump at the opportunity to do that. Devers, however, still sour from rightfully being moved off of 3B (where he sucked), is apparently not that kind of a teammate.

The Padres moved Tatis Jr. from SS to RF mid season after inking him to a $300 million deal. Did he complain? Not to my knowledge.

The Dodgers have moved Betts from RF to 2B to SS to wherever he is playing now. Has he complained? Not that I know of.

Tommy Edman was moved around how much? Ever complain? Don’t think so.

The Cardinals moved Contreras off of catcher a month into signing his deal. And then later was fine with moving off of catcher. Did he ever complain to the media? Again, no.

This is all on Devers, he’s taking it very poorly. I used to really want him. Now, not so much. Still love him as a hitter. As a teammate though he comes across as very unlikable.

[hullie]

Would you put a 96 hour time limit on it once offered?

[woofy25]

If you were POBO for STL would you consider a trade with Boston built around N/A and Devers?
Devers is actually quite affordable since he las a large sum of money deferred in each year of his contract.
Paired with Arenado, he would give STL a formidable middle order presence which they currently lack.
And from a business perspective, it would help bring fans back to the ballpark.
The potential fit is there.
Something along the lines of N/A, Mootbaar, Pozo, and Mikolas for Devers and Jhostynxon Garica.
Bottom line:
If you could add Devers' bat to the STL lineup for the next 8 years at little meaningful roster loss, would you?

So, you want the Red Sox to take a guy who stinks in mikolas, another who is league average in Arenado, a guy you think is a 4th OFer in Nootbaar and a complete unknown in pozo? Why in the world would the Red Sox make that deal?

[rockondlouie]

Never fails.

Mel once again trying to get rid of our best all round OF'er by throwing Noot into this deal.

And I'm so sure BDWJr would immediately signoff on absorbing Devers' 10 year, $313,500,000 contract ($42M deferred) that has eight yrs remaining on it.

Take Noot out and replace w/J. Walker plus BoSox send $40M ($5M/yr for remaining eight yrs) and sure I'd do it.

If not, then Huge PASS!

Please no. Walker would turn into a huge superstar in Boston and we’d never hear the end of it.

If we trade Walker, I hope it’s to somewhere like Miami or the White Sox or Twins where nobody cares.

I'd do Nado + Walker for Devers in a NY minute.

And the odds of Walker turning into a "huge superstar" have to be very low.