Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

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OldRed
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by OldRed »

WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:20 am
desertrat23 wrote: 06 May 2025 22:11 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 May 2025 21:06 pm
YNWA2016 wrote: 06 May 2025 19:53 pm why are some surprised at this?

this is only going to keep getting worse until the Cards get new owners. I predicted this years ago.


no top player free agents want to come to Cards to play for a no name manager.. a team that has no super stars or doesn't spend money to try to compete with the best teams in the NL.

the Cards literally have no hope in the future. they are also not great at developing player in the minors and finding gems to turn it around

many Cards fans finally realize this now.. more and more every year. I'm shocked that not all Cards fans don't' realize this yet. there is some out there that think getting rid of the GM or Manager will change things. no .. it's pretty simple and most are starting to realize

the Cardinals will NEVER win another NL Pennant again until they get new owners. I knew thisyears ago already and basically have lost interest in Cardinal baseball because of it.

I would say at least 50% of the fan base knows this now.. but there are still slow fans out there that who don't.
Slow fans? LOL! You mean loyal fans, don’t you?
Is anyone happy with 4 in a row.
Four in a row? Does the parade start at Market and Tucker, or all the way back to 18th? I prefer 20th so I can go to Maggie O’Brien’s first, but maybe we need to win five in a row for that.

Of course people are happy. Beats losing five in a row. But forgive us if it doesn’t take away the sting of years of a gradual slide into irrelevance.
Will only a WS win take away the sting, rat?
1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Cranny
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by Cranny »

OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:20 am
desertrat23 wrote: 06 May 2025 22:11 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 May 2025 21:06 pm

Slow fans? LOL! You mean loyal fans, don’t you?
Is anyone happy with 4 in a row.
Four in a row? Does the parade start at Market and Tucker, or all the way back to 18th? I prefer 20th so I can go to Maggie O’Brien’s first, but maybe we need to win five in a row for that.

Of course people are happy. Beats losing five in a row. But forgive us if it doesn’t take away the sting of years of a gradual slide into irrelevance.
Will only a WS win take away the sting, rat?
1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Remember, Red, you’re judged by the company you keep.
sikeston bulldog2
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by sikeston bulldog2 »

Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 13:30 pm
OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:20 am
desertrat23 wrote: 06 May 2025 22:11 pm

Four in a row? Does the parade start at Market and Tucker, or all the way back to 18th? I prefer 20th so I can go to Maggie O’Brien’s first, but maybe we need to win five in a row for that.

Of course people are happy. Beats losing five in a row. But forgive us if it doesn’t take away the sting of years of a gradual slide into irrelevance.
Will only a WS win take away the sting, rat?
1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Remember, Red, you’re judged by the company you keep.
Judged by who for what.
Looksgoodonyouthough
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by Looksgoodonyouthough »

Strictly my own opinion.

We do have reason for optimism. The team/players have flashed some real promise with showing signs of continued success and progress.

- But the blowback for me can be traced to July of 2017 with Mo being named PBO
- In that presser BDW3 stated MO’s primary role as PBO. That role is baseball oriented and not business and marketing operations. That is Frodo’s role
- since then MO’s vision of the future led to the ownership and FO to finally admit that they fell behind in major categories to keep and join the cutting edge that mid market teams need to compete
- no pitching lab
- lacking investment in player development
- poor roster management and build
- falling behind in analytics
- hiring yes men and managers. I could stand Oli if he gave us the impression that he knew how to get the most out of each players strength. Utilize what speed we etc…. At this point be aggressive and when presented a chance in extra innings go for it. Create excitement for this at the park.
- stating there as no need for pressure to win
- little investment in the international market and when they had clear oppty did nothing
- significant waste in contractural management
- acting and talking to the fan base like you are the President of a Fortune 500 business

And maybe worst of all when you are talking to your fan base that they cannot possibly understand the decision criteria nor complexities of baseball management. Alienating your fan base with these actions and attitudes. Basically, enabled by ownership to reach none of his positional goals of guiding the future. Anyone of the above would get a president replaced in the real world based on ROI for leadership of an organization.

I root for the team and go to several games a year with my son when he comes to town. I believe the players once the season start give there all I will continue to root for our players and watch there development.

So for me it is not the players nor strictly wins or losses but the manner what the fan base has had to endure from an overmatched FO and and on field management failures while being complete DH’s to the fan base.

Again, just my opinion.
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by Cranny »

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 May 2025 13:41 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 13:30 pm
OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:20 am

Will only a WS win take away the sting, rat?
1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Remember, Red, you’re judged by the company you keep.
Judged by who for what.
Between my friend Red and me, dawg.
sikeston bulldog2
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by sikeston bulldog2 »

Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 14:32 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 May 2025 13:41 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 13:30 pm
OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am

1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Remember, Red, you’re judged by the company you keep.
Judged by who for what.
Between my friend Red and me, dawg.
Oh sure. I saw it as a joke from Red, so I saw no judgement needed. Thanx for the clarification.
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by WLTFE »

OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am
desertrat23 wrote: 07 May 2025 08:29 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:20 am
desertrat23 wrote: 06 May 2025 22:11 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 May 2025 21:06 pm

Slow fans? LOL! You mean loyal fans, don’t you?
Is anyone happy with 4 in a row.
Four in a row? Does the parade start at Market and Tucker, or all the way back to 18th? I prefer 20th so I can go to Maggie O’Brien’s first, but maybe we need to win five in a row for that.

Of course people are happy. Beats losing five in a row. But forgive us if it doesn’t take away the sting of years of a gradual slide into irrelevance.
Will only a WS win take away the sting, rat?
1. Replace John Mozeliak. Wasting this year out of loyalty to him is unforgivable.
2. NLCS appearance with a good showing (none of this 2019 NLCS humiliation stuff)
3. Repeat #2.
Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
I would but I'm an adult and can ignore people who annoy me...at least I've never had a thread where people were so (upset) they called me out.. I find it sad and realize they are harmless.
OldRed
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Re: Wow, the number of empty seats are incredible

Post by OldRed »

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 May 2025 14:34 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 14:32 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 May 2025 13:41 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 May 2025 13:30 pm
OldRed wrote: 08 May 2025 12:17 pm
WLTFE wrote: 07 May 2025 12:44 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:40 pm
Banner29 wrote: 07 May 2025 12:25 pm
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 11:39 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 10:51 am
Adam2 wrote: 07 May 2025 10:38 am
Cranny wrote: 07 May 2025 08:33 am

Bloom takes over after this season. NLCS is downstream, hopefully.

So you can take no pleasure at all in wins during the season?
I personally can't because this season has zero chance of leading to any pennant or WS, but i am feeling positive about the Bloom regime
If you can’t take pleasure in wins this season, then why follow them?
hoping to see a glint of hope for future seasons
Each day is a glint as it’s one day closer to Mo being gone for good
You got it my man
And he can spend more time with his beautiful family!😀 one poster seems to enjoy calling other posters names...isn't that against 'the rules!'
Report him . . . . LOL!
Remember, Red, you’re judged by the company you keep.
Judged by who for what.
Between my friend Red and me, dawg.
Oh sure. I saw it as a joke from Red, so I saw no judgement needed. Thanx for the clarification.
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