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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
The overall impact between Faksa and Sunny is huge, Faksa has the highest FO% on the team and Sunny has the lowest
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:00 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
The overall impact between Faksa and Sunny is huge, Faksa has the highest FO% on the team and Sunny has the lowest
I agree. I would take Faksa over Sunny all day every day. Not sure why Sunny is on the PP as well................
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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Monty clearly loves Sunny for whatever reason. He was put in some very high leverage situations repeatedly
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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MiamiLaw wrote: 05 May 2025 12:09 pm Monty clearly loves Sunny for whatever reason. He was put in some very high leverage situations repeatedly
I like Sunny myself but he certainly can't replace Faksa on the dot.
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
They gave Dvorsky a taste which was the right move, show him the NHL he was able to travel with the team as well. Then he went back down. Time will tell Dvorsky may very well make it on opening night Im doubtful
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 12:14 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
They gave Dvorsky a taste which was the right move, show him the NHL he was able to travel with the team as well. Then he went back down. Time will tell Dvorsky may very well make it on opening night Im doubtful
My two cents is that I don't want to see us do anything rash due to impatience. We have a five-star meal in the works.

Take the Dvorsky situation one day at a time. If he can't be what we need him to be by early January then we maybe make a deadline move just for the rest of next season.
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:00 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
The overall impact between Faksa and Sunny is huge, Faksa has the highest FO% on the team and Sunny has the lowest
JMO, but I think the Sunny ship has sailed. He was directly responsible for 2 GA last night. If they can sign Faksa to a reasonable deal, I would move on from Sunny. I don’t think he is a viable 4C option on a team hoping to contend.
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Re: End of Season Thought on the Future

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2forDiving wrote: 05 May 2025 13:53 pm
skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:00 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
The overall impact between Faksa and Sunny is huge, Faksa has the highest FO% on the team and Sunny has the lowest
JMO, but I think the Sunny ship has sailed. He was directly responsible for 2 GA last night. If they can sign Faksa to a reasonable deal, I would move on from Sunny. I don’t think he is a viable 4C option on a team hoping to contend.
I hate that I agree with that
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Phil McCrakin wrote: 05 May 2025 01:13 am
swatski wrote: 05 May 2025 00:20 am 1. Another big man on D
2. Better entries on power plays
3. BETTER EMPTY NET PLAY!!!!

Those are my wishes. Oh forgot one.
4. Pre Order the statue for Binny
Schenn and Faulk haven't been the same players for last two years. The 2 positions those guys have are also the 2 positions about half the league is looking for (2C and top 4 RD) We might have to put up with Schenn as our 2C for another year and find a solid 3C that can alternate with Schenn when needed and let Dvorsky start at wing (like Thomas did his rookie year) until he can show he's ready. A big defensive minded RD is needed to pair with Broberg and its not Faulk. Army has work to do but I trust him. At least were young, and we know we're a playoff caliber team on the upswing. I'm (bleep) we lost but very optimistic about the future. LGB!!
Nice bart Simpson name.

Faulk isn’t just slipping he’s a TO nightmare. How does a vet just Randomly roll the puck up the middle every shift?

Gonna order me a 72 jersey with Fault
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skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 13:57 pm
2forDiving wrote: 05 May 2025 13:53 pm
skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:00 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:50 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:36 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 11:12 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:05 am
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 05 May 2025 10:45 am
kimzey59 wrote: 05 May 2025 10:24 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 05 May 2025 09:42 am
Nublues69 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:38 am Dvorsky will be on opening night roster. But if we went free agent Bennet and Duchene would have my eye
I think thats a long shot and Blues wont have that kind of FA money to spend. Looking at a 3rd center on a shorter deal until Dvorsky shows he can handle a regular spot in the NHL. Eyssimont, Frederic, there are a lot of options available
https://capwages.com/teams/st_louis_blues

15.5 mil in Cap space with Krug on LTIR.
9 mil without him on LTIR.

Faksa and Suter are the only UFA's of note.
Hofer is our only RFA of note.

We've got plenty of room to make a high-end signing if we wanted to.
I'm just not sure that would be the best course of action.
I don't know the situation beyond next year, but a big FA signing would impact our ability to sign both Holloway and Broberg beyond next year. They are certainly part of our core.

We're projected to have 49.5 mil in cap space for the '26 offseason(granted, that's just for 9 players).
Fowler, Leddy, Joseph, Texier, Sunny, Toro and Walker as UFA's.
Broberg, Holloway, Bolduc and Kessel as RFA's.


Realistically speaking, I wouldn't want to put more than 6-7 mil into a trade/UFA this summer; but I don't see us having any kind of issue getting Broberg/Holloway signed. A lot of the guys on the free agent list will have ELC contracts coming in to replace them(Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Pekarcik, Stancl) so we can pretty easily afford to splurge if we really want to.
I dont think Army is going to lock in to a big money FA center with Thomas, Schenn, Faksa and Dvorsky at some point on the horizon. I dont think the will spend to the cap just to say they are spending to the cap. I do think they need to outside the organization and find more of a short term playmaker if possible to play with Bolduc and Neighbours. I really like Ryan McLeod, age fits, skill, FO% but it would require a steep ish trade. A player like Eyssimont for example some speed, hits, a little skill would be an upgrade over Sunny and probably cheaper. This is the type of player i think Army grabs
Faksa is a UFA.
I wouldn't mind him coming back for a few years, but absolutely not at his current cap hit.

Right now we have Thomas, Schenn and Sunny(who needs a greatly reduced role) for next year. The question is whether we plug Dvorsky into the #3 center spot, or look outside the organization. Personally, I roll with Dvorsky. I think Neighbours and Bolduc can carry him until he gets up to speed(and I don't think that will take long).
Im skeptical on Dvorsky sliding in right away, 2 NHL games not sure Army wants to take that gamble but the Blues people will know more i trust their judgement. Cant say whether Faksa lands another $3 mill deal somewhere that sounds too high for me id be ok at $2 mill ish then looking for another center for more NHL depth. If Dvorsky blows everyone away this summer and in camp so be it the Blues will go with the best players they wont anoint anyone
1- Army said himself that we wouldn't have even called Dvorsky up if we didn't think he was ready.
IMO it's pretty much a certainty that Dvorsky is going to be given every chance to stick next year. IMO The people wanting Army to go chasing after a center are going to be extremely disappointed this summer. I think the forwards for next year are pretty much set.

2- Faksa is an interesting situation.
Sunny has a contract, Faksa doesn't. Both are capable of handling 4th line duties and neither one deserves to be on the bench.
In a bubble, I'd probably prefer to bring Faksa back. But I'm not sure I really see the point with Sunny still here. I don't think the overall impact of the 4th line changes regardless of who's at center.

Personally, I'd rather save the Faksa money and invest in a legit 3rd pair RHD.
The overall impact between Faksa and Sunny is huge, Faksa has the highest FO% on the team and Sunny has the lowest
JMO, but I think the Sunny ship has sailed. He was directly responsible for 2 GA last night. If they can sign Faksa to a reasonable deal, I would move on from Sunny. I don’t think he is a viable 4C option on a team hoping to contend.
I hate that I agree with that
Yeah, me too. He’s been a True Blue, but I think the wear and tear has taken a toll on him. Maybe he surprises me, I hope.
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Absolut wrote: 05 May 2025 13:59 pm
Phil McCrakin wrote: 05 May 2025 01:13 am
swatski wrote: 05 May 2025 00:20 am 1. Another big man on D
2. Better entries on power plays
3. BETTER EMPTY NET PLAY!!!!

Those are my wishes. Oh forgot one.
4. Pre Order the statue for Binny
Schenn and Faulk haven't been the same players for last two years. The 2 positions those guys have are also the 2 positions about half the league is looking for (2C and top 4 RD) We might have to put up with Schenn as our 2C for another year and find a solid 3C that can alternate with Schenn when needed and let Dvorsky start at wing (like Thomas did his rookie year) until he can show he's ready. A big defensive minded RD is needed to pair with Broberg and its not Faulk. Army has work to do but I trust him. At least were young, and we know we're a playoff caliber team on the upswing. I'm (bleep) we lost but very optimistic about the future. LGB!!
Nice bart Simpson name.

Faulk isn’t just slipping he’s a TO nightmare. How does a vet just Randomly roll the puck up the middle every shift?

Gonna order me a 72 jersey with Fault
I think he is still a quality NHL player, just with this particular team I'm having a hard time finding a spot.
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skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:13 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 05 May 2025 12:09 pm Monty clearly loves Sunny for whatever reason. He was put in some very high leverage situations repeatedly
I like Sunny myself but he certainly can't replace Faksa on the dot.
While I agree that Faksa is a far better center, they had Sunny at RW and he was a solid player there (not to mention one of the FEW RHer's we have). He was solid on the 2nd PP because he's great at blocking the tender, and he's still good at garbage goal rebounds (5th on the team with 4 ppg).

Our problems are (and for the near future will be) center and too many LHer's in the forward ranks. Schenn has NO business being a 2nd line center, so if you keep him on a scoring line, move him to wing (he did produce as a RW'er in the past), or move him to 3C. Regarding LH shots, we have too many with more on the way...
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Hockey Pete wrote: 05 May 2025 18:47 pm
skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:13 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 05 May 2025 12:09 pm Monty clearly loves Sunny for whatever reason. He was put in some very high leverage situations repeatedly
I like Sunny myself but he certainly can't replace Faksa on the dot.
While I agree that Faksa is a far better center, they had Sunny at RW and he was a solid player there (not to mention one of the FEW RHer's we have). He was solid on the 2nd PP because he's great at blocking the tender, and he's still good at garbage goal rebounds (5th on the team with 4 ppg).

Our problems are (and for the near future will be) center and too many LHer's in the forward ranks. Schenn has NO business being a 2nd line center, so if you keep him on a scoring line, move him to wing (he did produce as a RW'er in the past), or move him to 3C. Regarding LH shots, we have too many with more on the way...
Agree. I’d like to keep both Faksa and Sunny. Sunny is slow as molasses these days and I’d prefer to move him off C but he should still be able to play RW well and then be a C if/when injuries dictate the need for it.

And completely agree about moving Schenn to 3C or the wing. Ideally, the Blues add a 2C somehow. That’s the big need IMO. But one that doesn’t block Dvorsky longterm as well.

And a tweaking of the D a bit would be ideal too.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 18:58 pm
Hockey Pete wrote: 05 May 2025 18:47 pm
skilles wrote: 05 May 2025 12:13 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 05 May 2025 12:09 pm Monty clearly loves Sunny for whatever reason. He was put in some very high leverage situations repeatedly
I like Sunny myself but he certainly can't replace Faksa on the dot.
While I agree that Faksa is a far better center, they had Sunny at RW and he was a solid player there (not to mention one of the FEW RHer's we have). He was solid on the 2nd PP because he's great at blocking the tender, and he's still good at garbage goal rebounds (5th on the team with 4 ppg).

Our problems are (and for the near future will be) center and too many LHer's in the forward ranks. Schenn has NO business being a 2nd line center, so if you keep him on a scoring line, move him to wing (he did produce as a RW'er in the past), or move him to 3C. Regarding LH shots, we have too many with more on the way...
Agree. I’d like to keep both Faksa and Sunny. Sunny is slow as molasses these days and I’d prefer to move him off C but he should still be able to play RW well and then be a C if/when injuries dictate the need for it.

And completely agree about moving Schenn to 3C or the wing. Ideally, the Blues add a 2C somehow. That’s the big need IMO. But one that doesn’t block Dvorsky longterm as well.

And a tweaking of the D a bit would be ideal too.
Agree on D. Leddy was tough to watch, and some of the best chances/pressure came when he was out. Monty did a solid job of getting Leddy out AFTER their top line shifts, but it still wasn't pretty.

I also better be hearing Kyrou was hurt on the presser tomorrow, because Jets where checking him by simply skating in front of him. What REALLY got me steaming is that he just coasted after the lightest check... I'm ready to trade him for a 2C and a decent RH/RW prospect, and I haven't been tough on Jordan in about 3 years.
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