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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 07:56 am Well Blues, you got into the playoffs with a great run, were exciting at times, and many of us love you, although I'm just a bad fickle bandwagon type Blues fan, but wow.
I don't know much about hockey, but when trying to maintain a lead, giving up icing calls seems less than smart. Also when the oppositions net is empty, skate up some with the puck when you can to try and get a better percentage shot. Anyway, nice season, but what a way to lose.
Wonder what the Blues statcast odds of winning were when they were up 3-1 with little time remaining.
+99 perhaps?




They can't take away 2019 anyway, but one might wonder how long it'll be till the next STL crown in a major sport.
Which is the real question. What will either team do going forward now that both will have to overcome a more
equally difficult system. Hockey has decent odds to get in, but 4 pretty brutal rounds. At least the teams are on more
equal footings to get there. The Cards are no longer one of those top destination teams that fueled a lot of those WS championships.
They got 2 maybe 3 WS in this era depending how one perceives 1982. Now they're an underdog to the big spenders but
that can sometimes be overcome with players getting hot, just like the mentioned hot goalie example. Except for in the
Blues most recent, Winnepeg got a little puck luck.

What the Cards do need to do is regain is some excitement around to team, some optimism, which is lower than it should be IMO.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 07:56 am Well Blues, you got into the playoffs with a great run, were exciting at times, and many of us love you, although I'm just a bad fickle bandwagon type Blues fan, but wow.
I don't know much about hockey, but when trying to maintain a lead, giving up icing calls seems less than smart. Also when the oppositions net is empty, skate up some with the puck when you can to try and get a better percentage shot. Anyway, nice season, but what a way to lose.
Wonder what the Blues statcast odds of winning were when they were up 3-1 with little time remaining.
+99 perhaps?




They can't take away 2019 anyway, but one might wonder how long it'll be till the next STL crown in a major sport.

IMO the. The window is opening now and they will be an absolute juggernaut in a couple years. And will make some serious noise as early as next year. The Holloway/Broburg heist as well as the Monty move sped up the “retool” process by a couple years. Couple of young talented forwards will be here next year. Thomas contract may be an absolute bargain as he is establishing himself as a legitimate 1C. There’s some stuff to clean up in the Blueline contract wise but Parayko, Broburg, Fowler and even Tucker is a great start and a few nice prospects on the way. There’s also Binner. Has proved he can get it done. His team let him down last night. He was nails

I can easily see a cup or 2 from the Blues within the next 8-10 years
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
This is it in a nutshell. The Blues TRY. They're aggressive, up front with the fanbase, and do what they say they're going to do. Their goal is to WIN, not just compete. It doesn't always work but there's no doubt in my mind they're doing everything they can. The Cardinals aren't, and no one can say with a straight face that they are.

The Blues will take this gut-punch and become angry about it and be aggressive this summer to make sure it doesn't happen again. The Cardinals would shrug their shoulders and say "are you not entertained?"
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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desertrat23 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:38 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
This is it in a nutshell. The Blues TRY. They're aggressive, up front with the fanbase, and do what they say they're going to do. Their goal is to WIN, not just compete. It doesn't always work but there's no doubt in my mind they're doing everything they can. The Cardinals aren't, and no one can say with a straight face that they are.

The Blues will take this gut-punch and become angry about it and be aggressive this summer to make sure it doesn't happen again. The Cardinals would shrug their shoulders and say "are you not entertained?"

Agreed. Obviously tom stillman wants to make a profit. But you also get the impression he and army are as emotionally invested in the team success as the fans are. Fans see this loss as heartbreaking and they don’t even get the millions of dollars at the end of the year to make up for it. I have never had any reason to believe the Blues FO doesn’t feel the same way.

With all the chit Stan Kronke pulled on us you would think Dewitt and Mo would know (bleep) well better than to Middle finger the fanbase in any facet. Which ironically that’s all they have really done since the Rams left. Almost as if Dewitt was looking out for his fellow billionaire after the fanbase got nasty towards him.

Dewitt deserves the empty seats. Stillman deserves the loyalty
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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renostl wrote: 05 May 2025 10:11 am
JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 07:56 am Well Blues, you got into the playoffs with a great run, were exciting at times, and many of us love you, although I'm just a bad fickle bandwagon type Blues fan, but wow.
I don't know much about hockey, but when trying to maintain a lead, giving up icing calls seems less than smart. Also when the oppositions net is empty, skate up some with the puck when you can to try and get a better percentage shot. Anyway, nice season, but what a way to lose.
Wonder what the Blues statcast odds of winning were when they were up 3-1 with little time remaining.
+99 perhaps?




They can't take away 2019 anyway, but one might wonder how long it'll be till the next STL crown in a major sport.
Which is the real question. What will either team do going forward now that both will have to overcome a more
equally difficult system. Hockey has decent odds to get in, but 4 pretty brutal rounds. At least the teams are on more
equal footings to get there. The Cards are no longer one of those top destination teams that fueled a lot of those WS championships.
They got 2 maybe 3 WS in this era depending how one perceives 1982. Now they're an underdog to the big spenders but
that can sometimes be overcome with players getting hot, just like the mentioned hot goalie example. Except for in the
Blues most recent, Winnepeg got a little puck luck.

What the Cards do need to do is regain is some excitement around to team, some optimism, which is lower than it should be IMO.

Jets can thank their lucky Faulk'in stars that there was a mixup on the game-tying goal. BK and Ferrario just reported Parayko and Broberg were supposed to be on the ice, not turnover machine Justin Faulk. lol UnFaulkingbelievable.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
20 years is not "lately."
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 07:56 am Well Blues, you got into the playoffs with a great run, were exciting at times, and many of us love you, although I'm just a bad fickle bandwagon type Blues fan, but wow.
I don't know much about hockey, but when trying to maintain a lead, giving up icing calls seems less than smart. Also when the oppositions net is empty, skate up some with the puck when you can to try and get a better percentage shot. Anyway, nice season, but what a way to lose.
Wonder what the Blues statcast odds of winning were when they were up 3-1 with little time remaining.
+99 perhaps?




They can't take away 2019 anyway, but one might wonder how long it'll be till the next STL crown in a major sport.

IMO the. The window is opening now and they will be an absolute juggernaut in a couple years. And will make some serious noise as early as next year. The Holloway/Broburg heist as well as the Monty move sped up the “retool” process by a couple years. Couple of young talented forwards will be here next year. Thomas contract may be an absolute bargain as he is establishing himself as a legitimate 1C. There’s some stuff to clean up in the Blueline contract wise but Parayko, Broburg, Fowler and even Tucker is a great start and a few nice prospects on the way. There’s also Binner. Has proved he can get it done. His team let him down last night. He was nails

I can easily see a cup or 2 from the Blues within the next 8-10 years
Love your optimism and hope the Blues can do something like that, BUT it's never going to be easy.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 13:09 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 11:21 am
JDW wrote: 05 May 2025 07:56 am Well Blues, you got into the playoffs with a great run, were exciting at times, and many of us love you, although I'm just a bad fickle bandwagon type Blues fan, but wow.
I don't know much about hockey, but when trying to maintain a lead, giving up icing calls seems less than smart. Also when the oppositions net is empty, skate up some with the puck when you can to try and get a better percentage shot. Anyway, nice season, but what a way to lose.
Wonder what the Blues statcast odds of winning were when they were up 3-1 with little time remaining.
+99 perhaps?




They can't take away 2019 anyway, but one might wonder how long it'll be till the next STL crown in a major sport.

IMO the. The window is opening now and they will be an absolute juggernaut in a couple years. And will make some serious noise as early as next year. The Holloway/Broburg heist as well as the Monty move sped up the “retool” process by a couple years. Couple of young talented forwards will be here next year. Thomas contract may be an absolute bargain as he is establishing himself as a legitimate 1C. There’s some stuff to clean up in the Blueline contract wise but Parayko, Broburg, Fowler and even Tucker is a great start and a few nice prospects on the way. There’s also Binner. Has proved he can get it done. His team let him down last night. He was nails

I can easily see a cup or 2 from the Blues within the next 8-10 years
Love your optimism and hope the Blues can do something like that, BUT it's never going to be easy.
The Blues organization was a part of creating that optimism with enough fans to have
their arena mostly full. Empty arenas or stadiums decrease the fun when there. There's less
energy, might as well watch on TV and if bad turn it off.

The Cards don't have to immediately fill Busch. They do though need to get a crowd of similar size
in the stadium as the Blues as a starting point. Create some buzz. Not tell the paying customers through
both their actions and words, it's not important to win.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
That is why i posted the playoff last appearances for both :roll: because you moaned about a historical franchise comparison to the blues history. The blues have no cache in the NHL...and as such, shouldn't be looked to as some sort of winning template. They just made the playoffs after a few year absence and suddenly they are the template. LMAO
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 15:03 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
That is why i posted the playoff last appearances for both :roll: because you moaned about a historical franchise comparison to the blues history. The blues have no cache in the NHL...and as such, shouldn't be looked to as some sort of winning template. They just made the playoffs after a few year absence and suddenly they are the template. LMAO
I brought up the comparison because that’s what someone else did. As they mentioned the Blues only have one cup in their history. And showed how that was a pointless argument. You conveniently ignore that, while continuing the put words in my mouth that I didn’t say……..


You might not be having a stroke. But I definitely believe your parents are cousins……
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Got it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 15:03 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
That is why i posted the playoff last appearances for both :roll: because you moaned about a historical franchise comparison to the blues history. The blues have no cache in the NHL...and as such, shouldn't be looked to as some sort of winning template. They just made the playoffs after a few year absence and suddenly they are the template. LMAO
To suggest the Blues have "no cache" (sic) in the NHL is absurd. The Blues are seen as a model franchise around the League, hosting All-Star Games, Stanley Cup Final games, participating in three Winter Classics since 2017, etc. They spend to the cap and have a President of Hockey Operations who is so well-respected he's the leader of Team Canada, the most successful and prestigious national team in the world.
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Cranny wrote: 05 May 2025 15:42 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Got it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.

Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.

You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues

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Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 15:51 pm
Cranny wrote: 05 May 2025 15:42 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 14:57 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 12:57 pm
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 09:56 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:33 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:54 am
Banner29 wrote: 05 May 2025 07:37 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.

In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.

I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.


Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way

Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues :lol:

Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.

Not recent enough?

More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.

Last game was exciting to watch.

20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee

I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………
Making the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison? :lol:

I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.

Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more. :lol:

Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
Yes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.

So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!

:roll:
You’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.

Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Got it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.

Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.

You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
I'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.
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