Biggest Bust In Cards History

[Jobu's Rum]

6 pages and no mention of the immortal John Gall, disappointing

[Cranny]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate conversation, Basil.

[sikeston bulldog2]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

[Cranny]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

[sikeston bulldog2]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

You’d know. You seem to be very unhappy. You seem very happy to dwell in your abandon.

[Cranny]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

You’d know. You seem to be very unhappy. You seem very happy to dwell in your abandon.

Always get a kick out of people who make summarizations about people they don’t know.

[WLTFE]

Bulldog I'm sure that most posters come here to talk and (buzz) about Cards baseball...and there are others who, I'm guessing, have limited social interaction and CT is a chance for them to receive some attention...and they are harmless and sad.

[sikeston bulldog2]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

You’d know. You seem to be very unhappy. You seem very happy to dwell in your abandon.

Always get a kick out of people who make summarizations about people they don’t know.

I know ya. I see your writings. It speaks volumes. Is that not your work. Is it not representative of your character.

[Cranny]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

You’d know. You seem to be very unhappy. You seem very happy to dwell in your abandon.

Always get a kick out of people who make summarizations about people they don’t know.

I know ya. I see your writings. It speaks volumes. Is that not your work. Is it not representative of your character.

“I know ya”? Really, SB? I don’t think so. Nobody really knows anybody on here. Unless they’ve met them personally. I remember I was intrigued with BRuby years ago. So I bought him lunch in Clayton one day and really got to know him a little.

[Gob]

Definitely Mike Fiore and Allan Barber.

[Boooyah]

How about drafting Braden Looper with the 3rd overall pick in 1996 only to not sign.

He didn’t sign? We traded him to Florida in the Edgar Renteria deal

You’re right. Bad source. My bad

[Ozziesfan41]

Alex Reyes, and only because of health. He was filthy. Had the stuff to be the best pitcher in baseball. Looked dominant at an early age, like Jose Fernandez, or Paul Skenes. The gap between what he could have been and how things ended up is huge.

Honorable mention to Carlos Martinez. He is younger than Steven Matz and out of baseball.

I wouldn’t call Carlos a bust. In his three healthy years as a starter he won 42 games was a two time allstar and struck out 217 batters one of them. Cardinals badly mishandled him though and injuries eventually ate him up

I'm defining a "bust" as someone with a huge gap between what seemed reasonably within the players grasp to accomplish, and what the reality was. By that definition I call Carlos a bust. Huge disappointment. Sad what might have been.

Oh okay got you. I define it as someone who never really contributed just different opinions on what a bust is

[Basil Shabazz]

I remember I was intrigued with BRuby years ago. So I bought him lunch in Clayton one day and really got to know him a little.

That is just weird IMO

[Cranny]

I remember I was intrigued with BRuby years ago. So I bought him lunch in Clayton one day and really got to know him a little.

That is just weird IMO

Why is it weird? He was a baseball encyclopedia.
Someone I wanted to get to know.

CT is made up of real people, Basil. Not just robots punching a keyboard. OldRed approached me at Spring Training once, and I’m glad he did. It was a pleasure meeting him in person.

[sikeston bulldog2]

To be fair, maybe talk about the biggest successes too? Like AP, who ranks #2 in MLB history in RBI? And also ranks #4 in MLB history in HRs?

That wasn’t what this thread was about. Start your own positive thread if you want.

Sorry, future. Forgot CT is mainly negative.

This wasn't a negative post-Cranny, rather it's a fair question to create conversation.

Not everything requires sunshine and rainbows

Nothing like the worst of the worst to generate

Nothing like it. Everybody likes dirty laundry. Kick em when they’re up, kick em when they’re down.

Unhappiness seeks out company.

You’d know. You seem to be very unhappy. You seem very happy to dwell in your abandon.

Always get a kick out of people who make summarizations about people they don’t know.

I know ya. I see your writings. It speaks volumes. Is that not your work. Is it not representative of your character.

“I know ya”? Really, SB? I don’t think so. Nobody really knows anybody on here. Unless they’ve met them personally. I remember I was intrigued with BRuby years ago. So I bought him lunch in Clayton one day and really got to know him a little.

Writings generally spill the soul. So much so that love letters and letters to soldiers and prisoners are so powerful. They bare the soul in a calm and non threatening environment. And then the anticipation of a return letter. Songs movies and books all come from writings.
Yes sir. People unwittingly let their cat out of the bag.

People write from their heart.

[Strummer Jones]

If JWalk can’t figure this stuff out, where would he rank on the biggest bust list?

Lindemann, Aybar, Ankiel(P), Geronimo Pena, Rasmus, Carlson, To name a few that come to mind.

I don’t recall many being more hyped than Walker. Taveras maybe, but that’s a different story.

Heck, same thread could be made about Gorman

Tyler Greene, Pete Kozma, Brett Wallace, Zack Cox, Delvin Perez, James Ramsey

If I remember right, Ramsey was already a reach pick when we took him. One of those "probably a round 3 guy but we needed to save some dough to drop on someone else in the draft."

Now that I've looked it up, we had an absurd amount of first rounders that year. Wacha, Ramsey, Wisdom, Steve Bean, Piscotty...and Carson Kelly in the second round.

I'll go with Alex Reyes. That guy was going to be a stud, but he couldn't stay healthy. Brett Wallace had all of the "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" hallmarks. Good thing we got him to Oakland for Holliday before anyone else figured that out. Delvin Perez was also a big one. And the immortal Blake Hawksworth.

Also, for funsies, here's something I found from 2003: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... ects-chat/

Ahhhh...the Jimmy Journell years.