How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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cardsfaninla wrote: 04 May 2025 16:29 pm Based on the game2 lineup......

At least one more game.

go cards
Well, sure, he had a single in have game one, that will buy at least a couple of more weeks
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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sp25 wrote: 04 May 2025 16:54 pm
cardsfaninla wrote: 04 May 2025 16:29 pm Based on the game2 lineup......

At least one more game.

go cards
Well, sure, he had a single in have game one, that will buy at least a couple of more weeks
Then that home run will buy him another month or two.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 04 May 2025 17:51 pm
sp25 wrote: 04 May 2025 16:54 pm
cardsfaninla wrote: 04 May 2025 16:29 pm Based on the game2 lineup......

At least one more game.

go cards
Well, sure, he had a single in have game one, that will buy at least a couple of more weeks
Then that home run will buy him another month or two.
Probably the rest of the season
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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I really don't get the hate for Burleson. He led the team in pretty much every major category last season.

He's hitting better than Gorman, Baker, and Walker

He doesn't strikeout and takes his fair share of walks. He's not completely inept at defense
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 05 May 2025 00:26 am I really don't get the hate for Burleson. He led the team in pretty much every major category last season.

He's hitting better than Gorman, Baker, and Walker

He doesn't strikeout and takes his fair share of walks. He's not completely inept at defense
He never walks. He had 35 last year, in 595 plate appearances. Noot has 26 this year
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 05 May 2025 00:26 am I really don't get the hate for Burleson. He led the team in pretty much every major category last season.

He's hitting better than Gorman, Baker, and Walker

He doesn't strikeout and takes his fair share of walks. He's not completely inept at defense
He led the team in RBI. What other major category did he lead them in? It was his “breakout” year…and he was still barely passable as a bat only player. And 62% of his RBI and 59% of his HRs came over 2 months (June/July).
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 04 May 2025 17:51 pm
sp25 wrote: 04 May 2025 16:54 pm
cardsfaninla wrote: 04 May 2025 16:29 pm Based on the game2 lineup......

At least one more game.

go cards
Well, sure, he had a single in have game one, that will buy at least a couple of more weeks
Then that home run will buy him another month or two.
Or maybe that HR gets him going. Sometimes it just takes one. Here's hoping. That would be huge.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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We aren't going anywhere. Him Walker and Gorman have the season to work it out.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 05 May 2025 00:26 am I really don't get the hate for Burleson. He led the team in pretty much every major category last season.

He's hitting better than Gorman, Baker, and Walker

He doesn't strikeout and takes his fair share of walks. He's not completely inept at defense
1. He did NOT lead the team in every stat last season. Just RBI. Not BA, runs, doubles, HR, RBI, WAR. His oWAR OF 1.6 was 6th on the team last year.

2. He has one tool. He can hit. That's it. If he can't do that he's useless. His ops this season is .621 and his SLG is .316. Pathetic.

3. He does not take his fair share of walks.

4. He now has only 4 XBHS & 8 RBI this entire season despite hitting .5th most of the year.


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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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BETTER QUESTION IS-HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO STICK WITH GORMAN. HE IS TOTALLY LOST OFFENSIVELY AND HIS DEFENSE ISN'T TOO HOT EITHER!
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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Vinegar Ben wrote: 05 May 2025 05:47 am BETTER QUESTION IS-HOW LONG ARE THEY GOING TO STICK WITH GORMAN. HE IS TOTALLY LOST OFFENSIVELY AND HIS DEFENSE ISN'T TOO HOT EITHER!
Or how much longer do you use Pages as the primary starter at catcher?

Last 19 games: .183/.203/.269/.472

I’d love to DH Herrera when he gets back from his injury, but that still leaves a complete black hole in a Pages there.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 05 May 2025 00:26 am I really don't get the hate for Burleson. He led the team in pretty much every major category last season.

He's hitting better than Gorman, Baker, and Walker

He doesn't strikeout and takes his fair share of walks. He's not completely inept at defense
Are you his parents? These are some wild claims. Hendid not lead team in anything but rbis. He was 5th in ops behind contreras donovan herrera and nootbaar, andnonly 5 points above winn.
He only.has a bat. Thats hisntool. If he him and winn have similar ops, then thats a problem. Winn provides defense. Burleson is a 1b/dh mostly or really bad outfielder.

Secondly- he has always had a well below average league walk rate in majors and minors. Hos walks are up a tik this season at 6.3 % but the mlb aberage is still like 8%

Thats kinda the whole deal on why he doesnt hit well. Cuz he goes ahead and swings at everything regardless ifnits in the zone- do you eve watch the games? Or did you just watch yesterday cuz he happened to get a walk yesterday?
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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So Burly gets his bWAR up to -0.2. Yay.
Hopefully Herrera gets called up and can get the lions share of the DH opportunities, while Catching enough to see how he trends there.
Both Pages and Pozo did a good job of framing yesterday, as the Cards P's got many borderline calls in key situations. Without those calls, the Cards lose both games I'd speculate.
With Pozo scoring from 1B on the VS2 double, he should be the one earning more time up here when Herrera returns.
The NLC has the Cubs, Reds and Pirates who often run wild on the bases. The Cards need a C in those games that can keep that somewhat in check, and that guy isn't currently Herrera.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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Btw, Brewers like to run also.
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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Long enough to trade him to the Red Sox?
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Re: How much longer are they going to stick with Burleson?

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Once I. Hererra is activated Bumbles time at DH should diminish dramatically.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's a throw in if they make a big deal w/Helsley, Fedde, NADO or Matz (Mikolas if he'd waive).

Could the BoSox have some interest after losing their 1st BMan?
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