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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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onemizzou wrote: 01 May 2025 17:27 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 27 Apr 2025 18:18 pm
onemizzou wrote: 27 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
JackBolly wrote: 26 Apr 2025 15:23 pm Very happy for LB3 - the Bears and RandleEl will be good for hm. Much Congrats on a great accomplishment!

RG3 said LB3 was a top 15 talent and the Bears got a steal. I trust RG3's foorball opinions a LOT more than Kippers or the other ESPN bobbleheads, and definately more than any TB poster.
I don't watch or care that much for the NFL but what I've seen and heard from RG3 has always been very much on point. He's a smart dude and yes I'd value his opinion over Kiper's by a mile. I hate that LB3 dropped so much because certainly it cost him a lot of money but also because it may be a black mark on the program because how can you not utilize a talent like that, especially in what everyone knew was his last season. It's coaching malpractice.
Yes, two top 40 picks. Both signed as HS recruits and developed by the current staff. Terrible look for Mizzou.
Burden was considered at possible 10 pick going into his final season because of his performance the previous season. His drop has a LOT to do with his lack of utilization, that's kind of a back look for the OC and HC.
It’s really not. Carson Beck was a top 10 pick a year ago too. Quinn Ewers. James Pearce. Will Johnson. All top 10 picks before draft evaluations really began in earnest. And of course Shedeur Sanders who was a top pick right up until his name wasn’t called last Thursday. Something tells me Julian Lewis isn’t packing his room up in Boulder because their last QB tumbled down the draft.

And that is just this year. Review any mock draft nine months later and you’ll see the same.

The only people who those names are a bad look for is mock draft “experts”.
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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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Michigan, Georgia, Penn St., Texas, Ohio St., Oregon, Alabama, Ole Miss and Arizona.

The other programs with at least two players selected in the top 39 this year. Remove Oregon (Harmon) and Ole Miss (Dart and Nolen) and you’ll get the list of schools with two players taken that high who they recruited out of HS.

Yuck. Hate for Mizzou to be lumped in with those sad sacks.
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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:29 pm
onemizzou wrote: 01 May 2025 17:27 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 27 Apr 2025 18:18 pm
onemizzou wrote: 27 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
JackBolly wrote: 26 Apr 2025 15:23 pm Very happy for LB3 - the Bears and RandleEl will be good for hm. Much Congrats on a great accomplishment!

RG3 said LB3 was a top 15 talent and the Bears got a steal. I trust RG3's foorball opinions a LOT more than Kippers or the other ESPN bobbleheads, and definately more than any TB poster.
I don't watch or care that much for the NFL but what I've seen and heard from RG3 has always been very much on point. He's a smart dude and yes I'd value his opinion over Kiper's by a mile. I hate that LB3 dropped so much because certainly it cost him a lot of money but also because it may be a black mark on the program because how can you not utilize a talent like that, especially in what everyone knew was his last season. It's coaching malpractice.
Yes, two top 40 picks. Both signed as HS recruits and developed by the current staff. Terrible look for Mizzou.
Burden was considered at possible 10 pick going into his final season because of his performance the previous season. His drop has a LOT to do with his lack of utilization, that's kind of a back look for the OC and HC.
It’s really not. Carson Beck was a top 10 pick a year ago too. Quinn Ewers. James Pearce. Will Johnson. All top 10 picks before draft evaluations really began in earnest. And of course Shedeur Sanders who was a top pick right up until his name wasn’t called last Thursday. Something tells me Julian Lewis isn’t packing his room up in Boulder because their last QB tumbled down the draft.

And that is just this year. Review any mock draft nine months later and you’ll see the same.

The only people who those names are a bad look for is mock draft “experts”.
Yeah, Carson Beck decided not to go into the draft because he had a bad year. Was that on him or on the staff? I'd say it was more on him so it's not the same as Luther which I don't think he was the issue. And of course Carson has transferred away from that staff. Shedeur Sanders was never a top pick in my book to begin with and the scouts all knew it so I don't consider him an apt comparison either. Ewers proved that we was not only a top QB but also that when was injury prone.

The issue is that the Drink and Moore need to look at how they utilize their best players. You need to ride your best horse(s) to win, I don't think they did that. Luther also believes that, just check his Bears introductory interview.
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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:59 pm Michigan, Georgia, Penn St., Texas, Ohio St., Oregon, Alabama, Ole Miss and Arizona.

The other programs with at least two players selected in the top 39 this year. Remove Oregon (Harmon) and Ole Miss (Dart and Nolen) and you’ll get the list of schools with two players taken that high who they recruited out of HS.

Yuck. Hate for Mizzou to be lumped in with those sad sacks.
When are you going to learn that educating a troll like notmizzou is futile?

He just wants an opportunity to respond and get the opportunity to troll again.

And it's exactly what you are providing.
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The issue is that the Drink and Moore need to look at how they utilize their best players. You need to ride your best horse(s) to win
That's correct. Mizzou won 21 times over the last two years doing just that

And the Tigers were 10-1 in one score games.
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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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onemizzou wrote: 02 May 2025 15:23 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:29 pm
onemizzou wrote: 01 May 2025 17:27 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 27 Apr 2025 18:18 pm
onemizzou wrote: 27 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
JackBolly wrote: 26 Apr 2025 15:23 pm Very happy for LB3 - the Bears and RandleEl will be good for hm. Much Congrats on a great accomplishment!

RG3 said LB3 was a top 15 talent and the Bears got a steal. I trust RG3's foorball opinions a LOT more than Kippers or the other ESPN bobbleheads, and definately more than any TB poster.
I don't watch or care that much for the NFL but what I've seen and heard from RG3 has always been very much on point. He's a smart dude and yes I'd value his opinion over Kiper's by a mile. I hate that LB3 dropped so much because certainly it cost him a lot of money but also because it may be a black mark on the program because how can you not utilize a talent like that, especially in what everyone knew was his last season. It's coaching malpractice.
Yes, two top 40 picks. Both signed as HS recruits and developed by the current staff. Terrible look for Mizzou.
Burden was considered at possible 10 pick going into his final season because of his performance the previous season. His drop has a LOT to do with his lack of utilization, that's kind of a back look for the OC and HC.
It’s really not. Carson Beck was a top 10 pick a year ago too. Quinn Ewers. James Pearce. Will Johnson. All top 10 picks before draft evaluations really began in earnest. And of course Shedeur Sanders who was a top pick right up until his name wasn’t called last Thursday. Something tells me Julian Lewis isn’t packing his room up in Boulder because their last QB tumbled down the draft.

And that is just this year. Review any mock draft nine months later and you’ll see the same.

The only people who those names are a bad look for is mock draft “experts”.
Yeah, Carson Beck decided not to go into the draft because he had a bad year. Was that on him or on the staff? I'd say it was more on him so it's not the same as Luther which I don't think he was the issue. And of course Carson has transferred away from that staff. Shedeur Sanders was never a top pick in my book to begin with and the scouts all knew it so I don't consider him an apt comparison either. Ewers proved that we was not only a top QB but also that when was injury prone.

The issue is that the Drink and Moore need to look at how they utilize their best players. You need to ride your best horse(s) to win, I don't think they did that. Luther also believes that, just check his Bears introductory interview.
So it’s excuses for all the other players and schools but for Mizzou it’s just black and white a bad look for the coaches.

Understood.

I agree about utilization but thinking the 39th pick coming from your school is a negative on the coaches is reaching way to far to try and pick nits. You can’t see the forest through the trees.
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winonsports wrote: 02 May 2025 16:08 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:59 pm Michigan, Georgia, Penn St., Texas, Ohio St., Oregon, Alabama, Ole Miss and Arizona.

The other programs with at least two players selected in the top 39 this year. Remove Oregon (Harmon) and Ole Miss (Dart and Nolen) and you’ll get the list of schools with two players taken that high who they recruited out of HS.

Yuck. Hate for Mizzou to be lumped in with those sad sacks.
When are you going to learn that educating a troll like notmizzou is futile?

He just wants an opportunity to respond and get the opportunity to troll again.

And it's exactly what you are providing.
At the same time you learn that absolutely no one cares what you think. Which you might remember is the same thing I said the last time you brought this up. And the time before.

Guess we are both slow learners.
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Sidenote since Burden’s press conference came up. I never heard him blame the Mizzou coaching staff for his draft fall but I sure did hear the reporter ask him if he thought about leaving after his sophomore year, which was a funny moment.
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Every year there are 40 to 50 players that are projected to be top 10 picks by some draft guru out there.
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fatlaz wrote: 03 May 2025 07:31 am Every year there are 40 to 50 players that are projected to be top 10 picks by some draft guru out there.
Every single year. And somehow no coach ever gets fired because a player of his dropped in the draft. It’s almost like maximizing a few players’ draft position isn’t a college coaches’ top priority or pre-requisite for keeping their job.
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Re: As Predicted Burden Dropped Out Of 1st Round

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Barksdale's People wrote: 02 May 2025 16:53 pm
onemizzou wrote: 02 May 2025 15:23 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:29 pm
onemizzou wrote: 01 May 2025 17:27 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 27 Apr 2025 18:18 pm
onemizzou wrote: 27 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
JackBolly wrote: 26 Apr 2025 15:23 pm Very happy for LB3 - the Bears and RandleEl will be good for hm. Much Congrats on a great accomplishment!

RG3 said LB3 was a top 15 talent and the Bears got a steal. I trust RG3's foorball opinions a LOT more than Kippers or the other ESPN bobbleheads, and definately more than any TB poster.
I don't watch or care that much for the NFL but what I've seen and heard from RG3 has always been very much on point. He's a smart dude and yes I'd value his opinion over Kiper's by a mile. I hate that LB3 dropped so much because certainly it cost him a lot of money but also because it may be a black mark on the program because how can you not utilize a talent like that, especially in what everyone knew was his last season. It's coaching malpractice.
Yes, two top 40 picks. Both signed as HS recruits and developed by the current staff. Terrible look for Mizzou.
Burden was considered at possible 10 pick going into his final season because of his performance the previous season. His drop has a LOT to do with his lack of utilization, that's kind of a back look for the OC and HC.
It’s really not. Carson Beck was a top 10 pick a year ago too. Quinn Ewers. James Pearce. Will Johnson. All top 10 picks before draft evaluations really began in earnest. And of course Shedeur Sanders who was a top pick right up until his name wasn’t called last Thursday. Something tells me Julian Lewis isn’t packing his room up in Boulder because their last QB tumbled down the draft.

And that is just this year. Review any mock draft nine months later and you’ll see the same.

The only people who those names are a bad look for is mock draft “experts”.
Yeah, Carson Beck decided not to go into the draft because he had a bad year. Was that on him or on the staff? I'd say it was more on him so it's not the same as Luther which I don't think he was the issue. And of course Carson has transferred away from that staff. Shedeur Sanders was never a top pick in my book to begin with and the scouts all knew it so I don't consider him an apt comparison either. Ewers proved that we was not only a top QB but also that when was injury prone.

The issue is that the Drink and Moore need to look at how they utilize their best players. You need to ride your best horse(s) to win, I don't think they did that. Luther also believes that, just check his Bears introductory interview.
So it’s excuses for all the other players and schools but for Mizzou it’s just black and white a bad look for the coaches.

Understood.

I agree about utilization but thinking the 39th pick coming from your school is a negative on the coaches is reaching way to far to try and pick nits. You can’t see the forest through the trees.
You're ridiculous, Burden was a projected top 10 pick so, yes, 39 is a LOOOONG way from 10 in the NFL draft (check the guaranteed money between those picks). If you don't know that stop posting.
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Barksdale's People wrote: 02 May 2025 17:23 pm Sidenote since Burden’s press conference came up. I never heard him blame the Mizzou coaching staff for his draft fall but I sure did hear the reporter ask him if he thought about leaving after his sophomore year, which was a funny moment.
Really? You weren't listening. He clearly said he didn't get the opportunities last year that he got the year before. That's on the coaching staff and it clearly was a factor in him not getting drafted as high. Are you really thig thick?
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Barksdale's People wrote: 03 May 2025 12:00 pm
fatlaz wrote: 03 May 2025 07:31 am Every year there are 40 to 50 players that are projected to be top 10 picks by some draft guru out there.
Every single year. And somehow no coach ever gets fired because a player of his dropped in the draft. It’s almost like maximizing a few players’ draft position isn’t a college coaches’ top priority or pre-requisite for keeping their job.
Yeah, it's about maximizing your best players when your team needs it. The staff didn't do that and it cost Burden draft spots. You guys can circle jerk each other all you want but Luther lost a lot of money because of his lack of production.
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Barksdale's People wrote: 02 May 2025 17:06 pm
winonsports wrote: 02 May 2025 16:08 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 01 May 2025 19:59 pm Michigan, Georgia, Penn St., Texas, Ohio St., Oregon, Alabama, Ole Miss and Arizona.

The other programs with at least two players selected in the top 39 this year. Remove Oregon (Harmon) and Ole Miss (Dart and Nolen) and you’ll get the list of schools with two players taken that high who they recruited out of HS.

Yuck. Hate for Mizzou to be lumped in with those sad sacks.
When are you going to learn that educating a troll like notmizzou is futile?

He just wants an opportunity to respond and get the opportunity to troll again.

And it's exactly what you are providing.
At the same time you learn that absolutely no one cares what you think. Which you might remember is the same thing I said the last time you brought this up. And the time before.

Guess we are both slow learners.
This isn't what I think.

It's reality. See above.
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It’s not a coaches job to “maximize his players” (whatever that means). To quote Glenn ”Bo” Schembechler, it’s the team, not maximizing the individual.

Now can one argue that LB III wasn’t (or was) used as effectively as possible to optimize team performance? Sure. But to say LB III should have been used more to optimize his draft capital is daft.

We want the Big Ten championship and we're gonna win it as a Team. They can throw out all those great backs, and great quarterbacks, and great defensive players, throughout the country and in this conference, but there's gonna be one Team that's gonna play solely as a Team. No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team, and if we think that way, all of us, everything that you do, you take into consideration what effect does it have on my Team? Because you can go into professional football, you can go anywhere you want to play after you leave here. You will never play for a Team again. You'll play for a contract. You'll play for this. You'll play for that. You'll play for everything except the team, and think what a great thing it is to be a part of something that is, The Team. We're gonna win it. We're gonna win the championship again because we're gonna play as team, better than anybody else in this conference, we're gonna play together as a team. We're gonna believe in each other, we're not gonna criticize each other, we're not gonna talk about each other, we're gonna encourage each other. And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan.
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onemizzou wrote: 03 May 2025 19:18 pm
Barksdale's People wrote: 03 May 2025 12:00 pm
fatlaz wrote: 03 May 2025 07:31 am Every year there are 40 to 50 players that are projected to be top 10 picks by some draft guru out there.
Every single year. And somehow no coach ever gets fired because a player of his dropped in the draft. It’s almost like maximizing a few players’ draft position isn’t a college coaches’ top priority or pre-requisite for keeping their job.
Yeah, it's about maximizing your best players when your team needs it. The staff didn't do that and it cost Burden draft spots. You guys can circle jerk each other all you want but Luther lost a lot of money because of his lack of production.
So how do you balance the money you claim the coaches cost Burden with the money gained by Membou’s rise?

It seems to me by your own (thinly stretched) logic if the coaches are to blame for Burden then they must deserve celebration for Membou. Or the whole 21 wins thing over the past two years, that was nice too.

Personally I enjoyed the wins more than I would have enjoyed hearing Burden go sooner last week but I guess I’m just one of those weirdos who prefer to circle jerk victories as opposed to draft results. I’ll bet the year 2000 was a banner year at onemizzou’s house though, Mizzou was terrible but Justin Smith went #4 overall in the following draft. Highest draft pick for a Mizzou player in their history. Man, good times, it’s no wonder Larry Smith is such a revered coach in college football history.

The team was pretty good in one score games as shown to you already so “when your team needs it” is just the cherry on top of your ignorance here.
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