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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
Petro?
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2forDiving wrote: 01 May 2025 11:14 am
theograce wrote: 01 May 2025 10:59 am
ShakeyWalton wrote: 01 May 2025 10:56 am
theograce wrote: 01 May 2025 10:43 am I really wish Parayko would have challenged (at least) Stanley to fight in the 1st. He was humiliating Snuggerud (and others) badly. Someone needs to challenge him, but they look scared of him. Stanley has the crazy eyes lol
He didn't humiliate anyone but himself. He was pushing around a guy 6" shorter and 45 pounds lighter that had absolutely zero interest in engaging. He looked like an absolute goof ball. He also sucks at hockey.
Humiliated himself? By scaring and intimidating younger players? By blowing up guys? By saying let’s go…I’ll effing kill you. He’s had a massive impact in this series and he’s doing exactly as he should. They look scared of him
Who has he humiliated? Snuggerud? The same guy that later in the game walked him? Yeah, he was so afraid of mean old Stanley he took the puck right at him and walked right past him. Same with Walker. The guy was -2 in a game they won by 2. I’m sure the Blues hope they keep throwing him out there. He’s not very good.
Being -2 doesn’t matter when you’re blowing up young players and being a menace. He’s had a massive impact in this series. Some Blues were -2 and -3 last night. That’s irrelevant in this conversation
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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blues2112 wrote: 01 May 2025 11:17 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
Petro?
Don’t do it! The topic here is Faulk and Parayko’s icetime. I know it’s hard but it’s possible this doesn’t become yet another Petro thread! Hold, people, hold! Stay strong! :lol:
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:05 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
True. Pronger was the last one who patrolled the d-zone ice like he owned it.

The rest have been wannabe enforcers. Paper tigers who allow themselves to become couches.
If pronger is the standard nobody in the world has one of those
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Parayko also spent 2-3 mins extra in the penalty box last night due to no whistle after his penalty expired.
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Bluesfan1978 wrote: 01 May 2025 11:29 am Parayko also spent 2-3 mins extra in the penalty box last night due to no whistle after his penalty expired.
He’s barely averaging 20 mins in this series
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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2forDiving wrote: 01 May 2025 11:14 am
theograce wrote: 01 May 2025 10:59 am
ShakeyWalton wrote: 01 May 2025 10:56 am
theograce wrote: 01 May 2025 10:43 am I really wish Parayko would have challenged (at least) Stanley to fight in the 1st. He was humiliating Snuggerud (and others) badly. Someone needs to challenge him, but they look scared of him. Stanley has the crazy eyes lol
He didn't humiliate anyone but himself. He was pushing around a guy 6" shorter and 45 pounds lighter that had absolutely zero interest in engaging. He looked like an absolute goof ball. He also sucks at hockey.
Humiliated himself? By scaring and intimidating younger players? By blowing up guys? By saying let’s go…I’ll effing kill you. He’s had a massive impact in this series and he’s doing exactly as he should. They look scared of him
Who has he humiliated? Snuggerud?.
Is that a serious question? Snuggarud, Buchnevich, Kyrou, Faska, Schenn, Parayko looked down a bit when challenged. He’s been a total menace

Edit … humiliated s the wrong word for those players … he’s intimidated them
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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theograce wrote: 01 May 2025 11:14 am
TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:05 am The rest have been wannabe enforcers. Paper tigers who allow themselves to become couches.
It’s like you’re a child who can’t admit he’s wrong. I like it. Doug Armstrong/Yzerman/Hitchcock (all HOFers) named a paper tiger to lead the best hockey nation in the world. Crosby and McDavid … paper tigers as well
Hopefully he doesn't have any ouchies and actually decides to put in the effort to play.

It would go against his recent trends.

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Here’s Tbone … the meme guy infatuated with pietrangelo … it’s 75% of his content lol
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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STL fan in MN wrote: 01 May 2025 11:25 am
blues2112 wrote: 01 May 2025 11:17 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
Petro?
Don’t do it! The topic here is Faulk and Parayko’s icetime. I know it’s hard but it’s possible this doesn’t become yet another Petro thread! Hold, people, hold! Stay strong! :lol:
My mistake!!!
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:05 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
True. Pronger was the last one who patrolled the d-zone ice like he owned it.

The rest have been wannabe enforcers. Paper tigers who allow themselves to become couches.
Very few people have played defense at Pronger's level. I never saw Eddie Shore, so I would say Chris is in exclusive company.
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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DawgDad wrote: 01 May 2025 11:47 am
TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:05 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
True. Pronger was the last one who patrolled the d-zone ice like he owned it.

The rest have been wannabe enforcers. Paper tigers who allow themselves to become couches.
Very few people have played defense at Pronger's level. I never saw Eddie Shore, so I would say Chris is in exclusive company.
Correct. We're in agreement with Smilin Joe. The Blues last alpha defenseman was Pronger.

Those since are pale shadows of what you'd like an enforcer defensman to be.
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:52 am
DawgDad wrote: 01 May 2025 11:47 am
TBone wrote: 01 May 2025 11:05 am
smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
True. Pronger was the last one who patrolled the d-zone ice like he owned it.

The rest have been wannabe enforcers. Paper tigers who allow themselves to become couches.
Very few people have played defense at Pronger's level. I never saw Eddie Shore, so I would say Chris is in exclusive company.
Correct. We're in agreement with Smilin Joe. The Blues last alpha defenseman was Pronger.

Those since are pale shadows of what you'd like an enforcer defensman to be.
Pronger was never an enforcer dman. Ever. You can’t even get hockey terms correct.
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Re: Is Faulk the the Blues #1?

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smilinjoefission wrote: 01 May 2025 10:51 am Blues haven't had a true #1 since the days of Pronger and MacInnis...they've had ALOT of 2s, but not what I'd call a build around #1 Dman in a long time.
We had a hall of fame caliber #1 for a decade in which he support beamed them to the best record in the conference over that duration. Any person who allows themselves to believe they weren't watching a #1 defenseman, someone who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in a Game 7 he was 1+1 in, has either never understood the sport or is locked in a warped argument, period.
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seattleblue wrote: 01 May 2025 11:57 am they weren't watching a #1 defenseman, someone who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in a Game 7.
Is that really right? That’s crazy.

That 4 games of the final he had 6 points +5
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Army's Mom wrote: 01 May 2025 10:29 am I agree. I don't have nearly the problem with Faulk as others seem to, but I completely agree on Parayko. Especially on the PP.
Faulk's been better this series apparently because he's not playing as much and being overexposed. But if you didn't have a problem with him during the Blues regular season, especially once Parayko went down, you weren't paying attention.

Dude was a turnover machine. If you have a couple hours to waste, go look back at all the Faulk threads started by 20 different posters on game days. It wasn't a couple of nutjobs making him a whipping boy; it was everyone paying attention wondering why Faulk gets so much ice time when he had a team worst +/-, and managed to be the only player whose +/- got worse throughout the winning streak.

Faulk was once a great defenseman, at least offensively. He's not great at anything anymore.
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