Cards are following the Rams escape plan

[Hofikebrucee]

Any team starting Mikolas is trying to lose games.

Mix in a few lousy vets with unproven, mediocre youth. Not a complete tank but not trying to win either.
Drive away the fans so it's a soft exit.
They will move out of St Louis in the next 5 years.

I'll nominate this post for the most ignorant post of the year.

1000!

[BrummerStealsHome]

Any team starting Mikolas is trying to lose games.

Mix in a few lousy vets with unproven, mediocre youth. Not a complete tank but not trying to win either.
Drive away the fans so it's a soft exit.
They will move out of St Louis in the next 5 years.

Yawn!!

There's already a website for the Saskatoon Cardinals, you know.

[Goldfan]

BDW and III are Cincy guys. BDW spent most of his adult professional life there…..raised III there with III not coming to St. Louis until daddy bought the Cardinals. If they see hope, promise, and large tax incentives in Nashville……

Ridiculous.

BDW III went to both Harvard & Yale and then moved to St Louis while in his 20's. He's lived almost all of his adult life in St Louis and has a wife and children who call St. Louis home.

But the Cards aren't going anywhere. Everyone knows what they have here...put a competitive team on the field and attendance is one of the top 2 or 3 in baseball. Go to Nashville? Sure. And who can guarantee they'll be a superior market than St. Louis? Actually, it's quite doubtful.

Other things to consider....the DeWitt's have invested hundreds of millions in Busch III and BP Village. Do you really believe they'll just walk away from that investment? And do you think MLB will just let them leave one of the top markets in baseball over the past 30 years for an untested, unproven market?

Might as well suggest the Cowboys leaving Dallas or the Celtics leaving Boston. It's not going to happen. Certainly not in our lifetimes.

BDW was part owner of the Reds in ‘66 with his investment firm based in Cincy, which is where he lived and where his children grew up. It’s also been listed as his main residence. He didn’t move back to Stl until he bought the Cards.

“On January 23, 1996 DeWitt’s ownership group filed a Certificate of Limited Partnership with the State of Missouri, with the legal name of St. Louis Cardinals L.P. William O. DeWitt Jr. was listed as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Fred Hanser as Registered Agent.620 Cardinals president Mark Lamping would report to Hanser.621 DeWitt would continue to live in Cincinnati and commute to St. Louis as necessary.622”

For many years, BDW owned houses in both Cincy and St. Louis. Recently, he sold his house in St. Louis.

So he owned a house here from around the time he bought the team……but sells that house around the time of this great decline of Cards baseball….hmmm…..nothing to see here

[Goldfan]

Any team starting Mikolas is trying to lose games.

Mix in a few lousy vets with unproven, mediocre youth. Not a complete tank but not trying to win either.
Drive away the fans so it's a soft exit.
They will move out of St Louis in the next 5 years.

The Rams moved out of St. Louis and back to Los Angeles in 2016 due to several factors. The primary reason was dissatisfaction with the stadium situation in St. Louis. The Rams had a lease agreement that required their stadium to be among the top 25% in the NFL by 2015, but this condition wasn't met. Although Missouri proposed a $1.1 billion open-air stadium, Rams owner Stan Kroenke was not satisfied and took the matter to arbitration, which allowed the team to break their lease1.

Additionally, Kroenke cited economic challenges in St. Louis and filed a relocation application that included criticisms of the city's ability to support an NFL team. The move was approved by NFL owners with a 30-2 vote, but it came with a hefty $550 million relocation fee1. The Rams' departure left many St. Louis fans feeling betrayed.

The primary reason the Rams went back to LA was because the NFL never wanted them to move to St. Louis. After Georgia Frontiere died and Kroenke later became the majority owner, it was a done deal that he would move them back to LA.

Stan(Musial) Enos(Slaughter) Kroenke…..good ole hometown boy….could’ve helped build a stadium here just as he did in LA and it would’ve been sold out like it was all the years up until his “destroying the franchise plan” to lesson community support so he could fly off to LA. Calculated lying billionaire azzholes care little about what y’all think matters. If they see greener pastures all your “history” fills a nice book and that’s about it

[sikeston bulldog2]

Or...and hear me out....

They're letting Mikolas start because they're too cheap to cut him. Typically, that's been the case with this team and players that bring zero value despite big contracts.

Well it is 18 m you cut. That’s not fodder. Maybe just not start him and relegate him to the long mop up job which there will be many.

I'd rather pay him 18 million to NOT pitch, and pay the 18 mil plus league minimum to see McGreevy who is probably better, and at least has upside, than just pay 18 million to watch Mikolas stink up the joint every five days.

He’s been a 4 inning pitcher so far, with a good start. Today will be a challenge.