Mayo is the right target. If they can get him that seems like a haul. If they can get the pick, more power to them.craviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:31 pmif we trade Helsley and Fedde to the Orioles, I would want Mayo and Comp Round B pick from the O's...if that's not enough, then give me a 16 or 1yo DSL pitcher that shows some promisecraviduce wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:25 pmthe Picks are part of it, but I WANT the picks included in a trade for Helsley, Fedde, Nado, etcTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:19 pmThey should aim for bigger targets. The Cardinals have a few really desirable trade targets for a contender filling holes and even a few compelling youngsters that they could consider trading. If they need to, they should put together packages that bring back one higher quality player who is near major league ready in return. Don't accept numerous generic prospects with questionable ceilings. They should trade away twice as many players as they get back in return, but the return should have clear upside.
When do they start to sell?
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How?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pmIf they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable gamescardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pmCan we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
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For some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pmThen the owner needs to sell the team pronto.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pmMo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
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I think I know to which you allude. Cyber crime. Was not good for the organization.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 20:03 pmFor some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pmThen the owner needs to sell the team pronto.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pmMo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
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Re: When do they start to sell?
Yawn. Same old Ollie bashing. He is not a good manager, but THE PLAYERS are giving away too many games.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pmIf they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable gamescardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pmCan we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
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Yep. Could explain why he's still around.MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 21:09 pmI think I know to which you allude. Cyber crime. Was not good for the organization.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 20:03 pmFor some reason, the DeWitts are either extremely loyal to Mo, or compromised by him.MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:48 pmThen the owner needs to sell the team pronto.JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pmMo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
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Good news.
We only owe Gray ~$61M more on his 1.85 year contract (or $86M on his 2.85 year contract)
We only owe Contreras ~$57.5M more on his 2.85 year contract (or $70M on his 3.85 year contract)
We only owe Arenado ~$57M more on his 2.85 year contract.
We only owe Mikolas ~$13.5M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Matz ~$10M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Helsley ~$7M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Fedde ~$6.3M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We are making excellent progress. Expenses could be even less if we trade some of these guys. Then it won't matter if no one attends any games.
The Rays don't hear many boos at their home games. Their fans mostly cheer for the other team which is why they came to the game anyway.
We only owe Gray ~$61M more on his 1.85 year contract (or $86M on his 2.85 year contract)
We only owe Contreras ~$57.5M more on his 2.85 year contract (or $70M on his 3.85 year contract)
We only owe Arenado ~$57M more on his 2.85 year contract.
We only owe Mikolas ~$13.5M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Matz ~$10M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Helsley ~$7M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Fedde ~$6.3M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We are making excellent progress. Expenses could be even less if we trade some of these guys. Then it won't matter if no one attends any games.
The Rays don't hear many boos at their home games. Their fans mostly cheer for the other team which is why they came to the game anyway.
Re: When do they start to sell?
Dude...you constantly defending Oli is getting creepy...you're not the typical front office (donkey) kisser...you're much stranger.Bob Kunush wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 21:18 pmYawn. Same old Ollie bashing. He is not a good manager, but THE PLAYERS are giving away too many games.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:27 pmIf they can rewind to offseason fire oli. Hes giving away way too many winnable gamescardsfaninla wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:23 pmCan we rewind to the offseason and trade Helsley, Fedde, and anyone else anyone wanted? (aside from those no trade protected guys - who I still wish we traded but understand the challenges)Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
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Re: When do they start to sell?
And get nothing but a compensatory pick for Fedde and Helsley?rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
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Sadly, this contract countdown clock has taken precedence over the National League Central standings this year. Like the balance on my mortgage, can't wait to log on in a few months and see the progress!cardstatman wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 23:19 pm Good news.
We only owe Gray ~$61M more on his 1.85 year contract (or $86M on his 2.85 year contract)
We only owe Contreras ~$57.5M more on his 2.85 year contract (or $70M on his 3.85 year contract)
We only owe Arenado ~$57M more on his 2.85 year contract.
We only owe Mikolas ~$13.5M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Matz ~$10M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Helsley ~$7M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We only owe Fedde ~$6.3M more on his 0.85 year contract.
We are making excellent progress. Expenses could be even less if we trade some of these guys. Then it won't matter if no one attends any games.
The Rays don't hear many boos at their home games. Their fans mostly cheer for the other team which is why they came to the game anyway.
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Re: When do they start to sell?
Some things are (Libby to the SR, Noot hitting lead-off) but the roster is still full Mo as far as call-ups, trades ect...Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:03 pmMoe has got the be losing his grip. I would think everything is now in full Bloom.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
But let's hope Bloom has a voice even if Mo has the final say.
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JuanAgosto wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:18 pmMo won't let that happen. He will run the trades. And they will be idiotic. He's going to wave that middle finger to the fans all the way out the door.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.
This is where a younger BDWjr would step in and say, "Mo you don't have final say in any deals, Bloom does".
Sadly he's got old and lost his fire.
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This here!!Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 18:19 pmThey should aim for bigger targets. The Cardinals have a few really desirable trade targets for a contender filling holes and even a few compelling youngsters that they could consider trading. If they need to, they should put together packages that bring back one higher quality player who is near major league ready in return. Don't accept numerous generic prospects with questionable ceilings. They should trade away twice as many players as they get back in return, but the return should have clear upside.
Re: When do they start to sell?
I would love to believe that ARCYAlex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:03 pmMoe has got the be losing his grip. I would think everything is now in full Bloom.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:28 pmIf MO is doing the selling, never.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 14:16 pm At any point do they start to look to sell to bring back chips for Chaim and his news scouts / trainers to begin to develop them etc?
30 more days of this type of ball?
Let Bloom handle it, they're going to be his players.