Good bye Peyton Marshall

[Rantz]

I have different feelings about good prized recruits coaches recruit, and portal players. First, Shaun Phillips wasn't setting the world on fire at Arizona St. He's more like Grey more than anything. Think of him as Gray 2.0. Philips gets everything at the rim only a bit better than Gray....no jumper and a little bit better in FT shooing. I think Gray was .569 in FT's and Philips was .600. Marshall wanted more playing time. Marshall felt threaten by the fact that Burns is doing well in open gym and practices and the fact he has to be challenged by Phillips as well as Burns for playing time. Its been proven in the last few years, that continuity on a basketball team goes further in the dance than trying to put together a basketball team from the portal. Gates has even said as much, so I don't know why he's messing around with the portal when he needs to get those freshmen developed and more playing time. Marshall would have been better to stay...he was being trained to play in Gates system.

There was rumors flying around Friday that Phillips was coming and Marshall was going into the portal. It was true.

There is also rumors Boateng and Burns is thinking about jumping ship. This will be a disaster if they do. The minute Boateng hits portal, the Hogs will snatch him up with the deep pockets they have....and Burns...well....He can easily get payed and play in his home town of Houston.

I don't know...you watch Phillips's highlights, and it really looks like he's better than Gray; he moves better and plays a lot higher above the rim. Maybe there are trade-offs in defense and rebounding?
All we really know about Burns is what we hear in the rumor mill as to how good he is now and how good he can be. If he's as good as the rumors suggest, then I can't imagine Mizzou not doing everything they can to keep him ($$$). Boateng is still a work in progress, heck of an athlete but in a way he reminds me of Aiden Shaw; great athlete, offense really needs work.
What the portal is telling us this year is that it's becoming more and more difficult to pick up the exact type of players you need, unless you have VERY deep pockets. I agree with you that for a school like Mizzou, continuity is going to be more and more important, so I hope they do all they can to keep Burns and Boateng.

I did say Phillips was a little bit better than Gray..
But not by much. I hope he is...perhaps Gates and his staff can help him develop a bit more with a jumper.

Burns will still need to be developed...I hope he gets good playing time.

Go back and look the Mizzou games Boateng played.The guy is good and was coming along. But he got hurt during the SEC schedule and Gates shut him down. Boateng is going to get major minutes next season. No way he's Shaw...please don't even hint at that. Shaws problem is in his head. Pierce also has some problems mentally...but he is working through them. The kid gets down on himself and loses confidence. The portal closes on April 22....I don't think either Boateng or Burns is going any place.

Lots of top schools lost major people from their schools...some because of a bigger payday, some for playing time, and some because their time is up. In the SEC..Mizzou is the leader in bringing back more players than any other school in the SEC. We have continuity. Gates is using the majority of his NIL for his players that are there. And when you look at the new addition of Mack...if you look at his stats, he should have gotten $1- $1.5 million..
Mizzou got him for around $700.000. That was a steal. From what I understand, he kinda went lower because his jumper isn't consistent. But the dude is a b-line to the rim. His only issue is an inconsistent jumper...hope they can get him fixed on that.

Did you ever see the seats at the end of the bench that Burns sat in? Well..thats Norweathers seat
..at the end of the bench.
Norweather understood his seat is there and he won't get much playing time. He got no NIL money and is basically a practice player. Norweathers problem is he needed to spend a few years in the MMs out of high school to get developed. Oklahoma couldn't donit...now he is what he is. But if Gates thinks he can help him...he will put him in, but he cost Mizzou nothing other than a scholarship. The new rules say you can have 15 scholarship players now..

[Rantz]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

[Rantz]

Looks like they are back in the gym working and getting further developed!

[Rantz]

Joe Tipton

@TiptonEdits
Elisèe Assui, a 2006-born Italian and currently the youngest player in Serie A playing for Varese, has drawn interest from several high-major programs, including Wisconsin, Texas, Missouri, and Clemson, per source.

Since January, the 6-5, 215-pound wing has been averaging 17.8 minutes, 5.4 points, and 3.0 rebounds per game, while shooting 14/30 from three.

[woofy25]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

[Rvrartst]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

You can't "target a guard who can shoot 40% from 3", when there are not guards in the portal at the moment who fit that bill. The portal closes soon, and at this point, it looks like Mizzou is left looking for a bench player that can come in and make some shots because that's all that's expected to be available. Of course, Gates could still pull that rabbit out of the hat if there might be a deal in the works for a guy that hasn't entered the portal yet; that's happening with a couple with other schools.

Again, Mizzou is averse to spending stupid money on a player who barely fits what they need, and that's what's been happening in the portal this session. I would expect them to try for a bench player in the $400,000-$500,000 range at this point, and otherwise go with what they have.

[Rvrartst]

Joe Tipton

@TiptonEdits
Elisèe Assui, a 2006-born Italian and currently the youngest player in Serie A playing for Varese, has drawn interest from several high-major programs, including Wisconsin, Texas, Missouri, and Clemson, per source.

Since January, the 6-5, 215-pound wing has been averaging 17.8 minutes, 5.4 points, and 3.0 rebounds per game, while shooting 14/30 from three.

Would love for Mizzou to target a few European players. But as was noted on Rock M Plus, it has suddenly become a risk to take a foreign player on a student visa in the current political climate.

[woofy25]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

You can't "target a guard who can shoot 40% from 3", when there are not guards in the portal at the moment who fit that bill. The portal closes soon, and at this point, it looks like Mizzou is left looking for a bench player that can come in and make some shots because that's all that's expected to be available. Of course, Gates could still pull that rabbit out of the hat if there might be a deal in the works for a guy that hasn't entered the portal yet; that's happening with a couple with other schools.

Again, Mizzou is averse to spending stupid money on a player who barely fits what they need, and that's what's been happening in the portal this session. I would expect them to try for a bench player in the $400,000-$500,000 range at this point, and otherwise go with what they have.

Adam Miller and Malik Thomas fit the bill. Duke Miles, while he didn't play as much, shot 43%. Rylan Griffen didn't shoot it great this season but shot 39% the season before. He's very intriguing to me. They need a shooter, or they need to move Ant off the ball. Preferably, they do both.

[Rantz]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

[woofy25]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

[winonsports]

Joe Tipton

@TiptonEdits
Elisèe Assui, a 2006-born Italian and currently the youngest player in Serie A playing for Varese, has drawn interest from several high-major programs, including Wisconsin, Texas, Missouri, and Clemson, per source.

Since January, the 6-5, 215-pound wing has been averaging 17.8 minutes, 5.4 points, and 3.0 rebounds per game, while shooting 14/30 from three.

Would love for Mizzou to target a few European players. But as was noted on Rock M Plus, it has suddenly become a risk to take a foreign player on a student visa in the current political climate.

The risk is only if the player turns into a political activist.

The reward, ironically, is they can't receive NIL money.

[Rantz]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

I disagree with your understanding here. For a source to be credible, his info has to be credible. A credible source is also tasked with giving widely know information. Credible sources are known for being credible and trustworthy...providing truthful up to date info. A credible source not only provides widely known info, but undisclosed info as well.

As far as Mack as a Tiger and your observations.....Mack last year was around a 47% shooter when open, he drops off when contested a bit at a 23%. Maybe Gates thinks he can develop him a bit and fix a few things? Mack is built like a tank and Gates may move him on ball and Ant as the combo
but we have to wait and see. Cronin was a defensive guy and Mack excelled at it, so as you pointed out, they can be hell. I think he will be ok. Also, what I know about Mack is he excelled in the high PNR...and slots...he's able to scorer off simple action is what I've been told. I saw him some last season form a far but not much.....I like what I saw...b line to the rim. But his simple action and how good he's at it will be a welcome at Missouri. And because of his simple action, he's a FT getter. Start TO? That's an option, but he also presents a set of faults as well...like decision making. Kid has to grow in his game and develop more. I like him. Speaking about Ant....he's a great player and I expect him to get better. Checkout Evanmiya.com. Last I checked, on top players in college BB, They have Anthony Robinson coming in at #10.....and Copper Flagg came in at #1 and Broome at #2.

[woofy25]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

I disagree with your understanding here. For a source to be credible, his info has to be credible. A credible source is also tasked with giving widely know information. Credible sources are known for being credible and trustworthy...providing truthful up to date info. A credible source not only provides widely known info, but undisclosed info as well.

As far as Mack as a Tiger and your observations.....Mack last year was around a 47% shooter when open, he drops off when contested a bit at a 23%. Maybe Gates thinks he can develop him a bit and fix a few things? Mack is built like a tank and Gates may move him on ball and Ant as the combo
but we have to wait and see. Cronin was a defensive guy and Mack excelled at it, so as you pointed out, they can be hell. I think he will be ok. Also, what I know about Mack is he excelled in the high PNR...and slots...he's able to scorer off simple action is what I've been told. I saw him some last season form a far but not much.....I like what I saw...b line to the rim. But his simple action and how good he's at it will be a welcome at Missouri. And because of his simple action, he's a FT getter. Start TO? That's an option, but he also presents a set of faults as well...like decision making. Kid has to grow in his game and develop more. I like him. Speaking about Ant....he's a great player and I expect him to get better. Checkout Evanmiya.com. Last I checked, on top players in college BB, They have Anthony Robinson coming in at #10.....and Copper Flagg came in at #1 and Broome at #2.

Your description of sources makes zero sense to me. You don’t need a source to provide info that is already available.

If Cronin is defensive minded and Mack excels at it, then it’s curious that his PT dropped 25% from his Freshman year. And I would hope he can shoot when open. Hes a D1 guard after all. He shot 42% from 2 which is really bad. If they have other shooters on the floor then I’m fine with him, but if he’s supposed to be a threat from three, then they’re in trouble, sans a huge offseason improvement.
I am higher on TO than most. Not as a scorer but as someone who can pass people open, make good decisions and lock down defensively. Of course he needs to improve.
If you’re open to moving Ant off the ball, then that’s interesting. Most people think I’m crazy for suggesting that.

[Rantz]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

I disagree with your understanding here. For a source to be credible, his info has to be credible. A credible source is also tasked with giving widely know information. Credible sources are known for being credible and trustworthy...providing truthful up to date info. A credible source not only provides widely known info, but undisclosed info as well.

As far as Mack as a Tiger and your observations.....Mack last year was around a 47% shooter when open, he drops off when contested a bit at a 23%. Maybe Gates thinks he can develop him a bit and fix a few things? Mack is built like a tank and Gates may move him on ball and Ant as the combo
but we have to wait and see. Cronin was a defensive guy and Mack excelled at it, so as you pointed out, they can be hell. I think he will be ok. Also, what I know about Mack is he excelled in the high PNR...and slots...he's able to scorer off simple action is what I've been told. I saw him some last season form a far but not much.....I like what I saw...b line to the rim. But his simple action and how good he's at it will be a welcome at Missouri. And because of his simple action, he's a FT getter. Start TO? That's an option, but he also presents a set of faults as well...like decision making. Kid has to grow in his game and develop more. I like him. Speaking about Ant....he's a great player and I expect him to get better. Checkout Evanmiya.com. Last I checked, on top players in college BB, They have Anthony Robinson coming in at #10.....and Copper Flagg came in at #1 and Broome at #2.

Your description of sources makes zero sense to me. You don’t need a source to provide info that is already available.

If Cronin is defensive minded and Mack excels at it, then it’s curious that his PT dropped 25% from his Freshman year. And I would hope he can shoot when open. Hes a D1 guard after all. He shot 42% from 2 which is really bad. If they have other shooters on the floor then I’m fine with him, but if he’s supposed to be a threat from three, then they’re in trouble, sans a huge offseason improvement.
I am higher on TO than most. Not as a scorer but as someone who can pass people open, make good decisions and lock down defensively. Of course he needs to improve.
If you’re open to moving Ant off the ball, then that’s interesting. Most people think I’m crazy for suggesting that.

But that's the rub...information isn't always know to every one. Section b can be in the know...section c may not know at all, tho it's widely known in section b. Just like these boards...you and I had the info...but others didnt.

Its obvious Cronin saw fit to move him to a sixth man roll. In his 2nd year he was 6th in minutes and , second in usage. In Macks Freshman year he shot 38%. while he lost 6 minutes per game, he gained in FG %.

Ant in 2 pointers shot 48% and Mack shot 42%...both in their 2nd year.

Mack is great in single action and excelled in it. You need a bucket? Mack is a b line to the rim with simple PNR single action. Gates still wants a floor spacer so look for that. In high school Ant was more of a combo tho he played both... mostly a combo. I like TO a lot...kid has great upside and he plays fearless and has wiggle to his game.

I also suspect the incoming Freshman, Rowe will also get playing time. Tho he is skinny and needs to eat, he will likely be the fastest guard in the SEC. He's a pure point who can shoot the 3.

I'm told Gates may not use both of his 2 spots he has left, but will look for the floor spacer.

[woofy25]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

I disagree with your understanding here. For a source to be credible, his info has to be credible. A credible source is also tasked with giving widely know information. Credible sources are known for being credible and trustworthy...providing truthful up to date info. A credible source not only provides widely known info, but undisclosed info as well.

As far as Mack as a Tiger and your observations.....Mack last year was around a 47% shooter when open, he drops off when contested a bit at a 23%. Maybe Gates thinks he can develop him a bit and fix a few things? Mack is built like a tank and Gates may move him on ball and Ant as the combo
but we have to wait and see. Cronin was a defensive guy and Mack excelled at it, so as you pointed out, they can be hell. I think he will be ok. Also, what I know about Mack is he excelled in the high PNR...and slots...he's able to scorer off simple action is what I've been told. I saw him some last season form a far but not much.....I like what I saw...b line to the rim. But his simple action and how good he's at it will be a welcome at Missouri. And because of his simple action, he's a FT getter. Start TO? That's an option, but he also presents a set of faults as well...like decision making. Kid has to grow in his game and develop more. I like him. Speaking about Ant....he's a great player and I expect him to get better. Checkout Evanmiya.com. Last I checked, on top players in college BB, They have Anthony Robinson coming in at #10.....and Copper Flagg came in at #1 and Broome at #2.

Your description of sources makes zero sense to me. You don’t need a source to provide info that is already available.

If Cronin is defensive minded and Mack excels at it, then it’s curious that his PT dropped 25% from his Freshman year. And I would hope he can shoot when open. Hes a D1 guard after all. He shot 42% from 2 which is really bad. If they have other shooters on the floor then I’m fine with him, but if he’s supposed to be a threat from three, then they’re in trouble, sans a huge offseason improvement.
I am higher on TO than most. Not as a scorer but as someone who can pass people open, make good decisions and lock down defensively. Of course he needs to improve.
If you’re open to moving Ant off the ball, then that’s interesting. Most people think I’m crazy for suggesting that.

But that's the rub...information isn't always know to every one. Section b can be in the know...section c may not know at all, tho it's widely known in section b. Just like these boards...you and I had the info...but others didnt.

Its obvious Cronin saw fit to move him to a sixth man roll. In his 2nd year he was 6th in minutes and , second in usage. In Macks Freshman year he shot 38%. while he lost 6 minutes per game, he gained in FG %.

Ant in 2 pointers shot 48% and Mack shot 42%...both in their 2nd year.

Mack is great in single action and excelled in it. You need a bucket? Mack is a b line to the rim with simple PNR single action. Gates still wants a floor spacer so look for that. In high school Ant was more of a combo tho he played both... mostly a combo. I like TO a lot...kid has great upside and he plays fearless and has wiggle to his game.

I also suspect the incoming Freshman, Rowe will also get playing time. Tho he is skinny and needs to eat, he will likely be the fastest guard in the SEC. He's a pure point who can shoot the 3.

I'm told Gates may not use both of his 2 spots he has left, but will look for the floor spacer.

So Mack is the Tony Perkins replacement, offensively. They need to replace a lot more from the backcourt, and/or Boateng needs to come out of nowhere.

[Rantz]

Gates I dare you win 20 plus games and 10 conference games and be predicted to finish at the bottom of the conference this year and make the dance. You have to budget basement shop in the portal and high school recruiting, because we have one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country. There's a reason that Laurence Bowers resigned as director of the NIL for basketball. The football team continues to get money for the football team and the basketball team.......Oh well!!!

Gates please get the hell out of Boone Co.

Really curious about this. Can you detail what Mizzou's basketball NIL budget is compared to other Power 4 schools? Or maybe the just the SEC would do. If it is materially less than other schools, then that certainly changes my opinion of the incredibly underwhelming portal class and incoming Freshman class.

He has no idea what the NIL budget is for the hoops program… he’s banged this drum until there’s a hole in it. We signed a top 10 freshmen class last year, in addition to starters from Duke and Iowa. We didn’t do that with “one of the lowest NIL budgets in the country” We don’t have Arkansas, Kty, or NC money to throw around, but it isn’t chicken feed either - per people who are knowledgeable on the subject, we are middle of the pack in the sec

Can you provide a source?

from what I know about Mizzou and NIL is that there are like three levels in the SEC. You have the top schools like Ark and that level.....then there is a second level, and then the lowest level. Well the first level is just over flowing with cash.....that's why Calipari took the job. Then there is the second level...not over flowing like the first, but very capable to spend. Then the lower level just has to be very carful. Mizzou has second level status.

Mizzou aint hurting, and as far as the BB is concerned, Gates uses a lot of his money to keep his good players....He's on record as saying continuity is needed, not a team that turns over every year. There is no team in the SEC thats bringing back more players than Mizzou Basketball. Can you imagined if Mark Mitchell went into the portal how much he would command? From what I understand Mitchell can get $2m if he entered. And Ant would command $1.2 SO Gates is paying his guys not to jump in the portal. Gates is also a very good steward of the purse as well. He has a certain type of player he wants, so he is carful. Big men at the 5 are the hardest, the fewest and the most expensive to get in the portal. You have to move quick and have your money ready to pounce. Gates is always late to get one.. And if you are wondering how I know this.....I have a very reliable source.

You’re not saying anything that requires a very reliable source. Gabe D talked about both Mitchell’s and ants values a couple days ago. Every coach wants to keep their best players, and everyone knows bigs are harder to get bc there are a lot more guys who are 6’2” than 6’10”. Everyone knows Arkansas has deep pockets. Everyone knows there are tiers for nil. Every single thing you’ve said is common sense or a Mizzou reporter has reported on it.

Have your source provide something to you that is valuable. It would be interesting to know about how much Mizzou has to spend on NIL and how much they have spent. It would be interesting to know why they spent a good amount of money on a guard who can’t shoot 3s nor 2s, and lost minutes yoy. It would be interesting to know if they’re targeting a guard who can shoot 40+ from 3 bc they desperately need it. Would they consider spending the rest for their nil one guy and go with 14? Please forward these questions to your very reliable source.

Woofy...sound like you are angry.

Woofy....this info isn't universal as you make it out to be.....otherwise some wouldn't be making the comments that's made. Schools aren't require to disclose their finances of the NIL...at least not at this point. As for the rest of your questions...why dont you tell us what you think about it?

No, not angry. However, it's important to point out when someone claims to have a very good source, and the information they forward from that source is either common sense or already widely reported. Sources, especially anonymous sources, provide undisclosed information, ie. NIL finances. Yours, apparently, is not close enough to know that info, which calls into question how very reliable it is, considering the portal is the only thing that currently matters in college basketball. I could have been your source for all the posts you have made in this thread so far.

I don't know what they see in Mack, unless they're really focusing on defense and free throw attempts. Ant, TO, and Mack (seemingly) will make it very difficult on opponents' backcourts. However, he can't shoot, at all. If he starts, I think that's not a great sign. The 2 should be a reliable shooter. Yes, they should target one of the few remaining sharp shooters in the portal. If that means they go with 14 guys, then that is an obvious move to make. Ultimately, at this point, I would move Ant off the ball and start TO at PG. Ant has become a reliable 3pt shooter, has a lethal elbow jumper, and can create his own shot. I want him to focus on that rather than worry about running the offense, and facilitating.

I disagree with your understanding here. For a source to be credible, his info has to be credible. A credible source is also tasked with giving widely know information. Credible sources are known for being credible and trustworthy...providing truthful up to date info. A credible source not only provides widely known info, but undisclosed info as well.

As far as Mack as a Tiger and your observations.....Mack last year was around a 47% shooter when open, he drops off when contested a bit at a 23%. Maybe Gates thinks he can develop him a bit and fix a few things? Mack is built like a tank and Gates may move him on ball and Ant as the combo
but we have to wait and see. Cronin was a defensive guy and Mack excelled at it, so as you pointed out, they can be hell. I think he will be ok. Also, what I know about Mack is he excelled in the high PNR...and slots...he's able to scorer off simple action is what I've been told. I saw him some last season form a far but not much.....I like what I saw...b line to the rim. But his simple action and how good he's at it will be a welcome at Missouri. And because of his simple action, he's a FT getter. Start TO? That's an option, but he also presents a set of faults as well...like decision making. Kid has to grow in his game and develop more. I like him. Speaking about Ant....he's a great player and I expect him to get better. Checkout Evanmiya.com. Last I checked, on top players in college BB, They have Anthony Robinson coming in at #10.....and Copper Flagg came in at #1 and Broome at #2.

Your description of sources makes zero sense to me. You don’t need a source to provide info that is already available.

If Cronin is defensive minded and Mack excels at it, then it’s curious that his PT dropped 25% from his Freshman year. And I would hope he can shoot when open. Hes a D1 guard after all. He shot 42% from 2 which is really bad. If they have other shooters on the floor then I’m fine with him, but if he’s supposed to be a threat from three, then they’re in trouble, sans a huge offseason improvement.
I am higher on TO than most. Not as a scorer but as someone who can pass people open, make good decisions and lock down defensively. Of course he needs to improve.
If you’re open to moving Ant off the ball, then that’s interesting. Most people think I’m crazy for suggesting that.

But that's the rub...information isn't always know to every one. Section b can be in the know...section c may not know at all, tho it's widely known in section b. Just like these boards...you and I had the info...but others didnt.

Its obvious Cronin saw fit to move him to a sixth man roll. In his 2nd year he was 6th in minutes and , second in usage. In Macks Freshman year he shot 38%. while he lost 6 minutes per game, he gained in FG %.

Ant in 2 pointers shot 48% and Mack shot 42%...both in their 2nd year.

Mack is great in single action and excelled in it. You need a bucket? Mack is a b line to the rim with simple PNR single action. Gates still wants a floor spacer so look for that. In high school Ant was more of a combo tho he played both... mostly a combo. I like TO a lot...kid has great upside and he plays fearless and has wiggle to his game.

I also suspect the incoming Freshman, Rowe will also get playing time. Tho he is skinny and needs to eat, he will likely be the fastest guard in the SEC. He's a pure point who can shoot the 3.

I'm told Gates may not use both of his 2 spots he has left, but will look for the floor spacer.

So Mack is the Tony Perkins replacement, offensively. They need to replace a lot more from the backcourt, and/or Boateng needs to come out of nowhere.

Mack and Ant together are going to surprise people in my opinion. Mack has a game similar to Perkins, but should be better. Especially in single action and getting to the rim. While being 6'3, I think Perkins was 6'4, but Mack has a knack for getting to the rim and to the FT line much more than Perkins. Perkins on the single and double action seem to shy away from the defender down the middle.....not Mack...hes a real dog! Perkins got to the FT line fewer times than Mack, but the percentages are a little higher with Perkins.

You know Gates is just like all coaches in the game, but some are better than others at it. We know how Gates can get guys to mature and develop.Bates wasn't much at Indiana...had bad coaches who didnt know how to use him.... and Gates got the best out of him....Look at Kobe.....Gates set him on fire and the guy was the last Pick in the first round. (BTW...Kobe can't get playing time because of the super stars on that team and this is his second year, I hope they trade Kobe) So Gates sees Mack, a guy who could have maybe got more, but Gates got him for less than $1m....you know Gates is thinking he can mold him....the guys coming into his 3 year, you cant pass on a guy like that! So to answer your question, Mack maybe the replacement for Perkins. But we still have to see the floor spacer.

But remember Pierce is a stretch 4....he was coming on strong last year, until he fell off and lost confidence. Trent Pierce even said he lost confidence and got down on himself. But when Pierce was good the team did really well. If Trent Pierce can pull his head together and get his game together, he will have pro scouts at the games checking him out. The guy is good and I was worried he would go portaling....but he's still here. All Trent needs to do is be consistent and he will help us a lot! This off season is an important off season for Trent!

The Portal closes on April 22 but I think we are safe. Boateng was also coming around and got hurt during the season, and I think Gates shut him down to protect him and got him wash up minutes. Boateng being a wing needs to also work this off season. His work is to get much better handles being a wing, and he needs to be more consistent in his shot! From what I understand, Bates and a few others told Boateng , after Bates is gone, He is the next man up! We also have Porter who sorta sleep walked his way through college and had his god father as his coach who never ever really pushed the kid. Jovan Porters biggest mistake was following Romar from school to school. Now he has one year under a coach that's really going to challenge him. The dude has untapped natural talent...its in his genes. I hope Gates can tap into it. He probably would have been here this year but for his brother who went to prison, so he need to get out of town to avoid the pressure of that, so he once again was under his god father. So if we can get Pierce, Porter and Crews, who has shown flashes of what he can do, If we can get those guys to each be consistent from behind the ark we may have the spacers we need.