$2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so? They didn’t feed the golden goose for years and you can still support these morons? They used the fans’ wallets for an annuity until it got so bad they had to do something (even the dumb eventually wake up).
None of this adds up. The narrative when TLR left was that the main focus was developing from within and not feeding TLR’s need for vets. So what happened? How does a push for developing the next Yad….Pujols turn 180 to total non support and collapse?? BUT NOW it’s time to build from within again…. :lol: :lol:
Again if BDW can’t or won’t compete in this age of MLB then pocket his billions and move on
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
Gutting the minor league system? Nope. Way too dramatic.
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these posts are silly, mlb as well as others do not open up their books. so writer is making [shirt] up
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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AtillaTheBlue1 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:05 pm these posts are silly, mlb as well as others do not open up their books. so writer is making [shirt] up
Polo or Izod shirt?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
I appreciate you enjoying the loyalty factor. I don’t know why you’re not bothered by it, but at least you see it.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:30 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
Gutting the minor league system? Nope. Way too dramatic.
If it’s not gutted then why so understaffed, unequipped, way behind on tech? What’s your word for that? You’ve posted on here that money is reallocated to minors and not spent on ML payroll. Seriously you can’t have it both ways…….
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:30 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
Gutting the minor league system? Nope. Way too dramatic.
If it’s not gutted then why so understaffed, unequipped, way behind on tech? What’s your word for that? You’ve posted on here that money is reallocated to minors and not spent on ML payroll. Seriously you can’t have it both ways…….
Read my post again, Goldfan, and look at the number of system products that are doing well at the major level with the Cardinals. Factor in the fact that the pitching is now ranked #3. Also, look at the trade chips like Alcantara and Gallen.

Now, say something positive. What do you think about taking 2 of 3 from the Phillies?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:30 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
Gutting the minor league system? Nope. Way too dramatic.
If it’s not gutted then why so understaffed, unequipped, way behind on tech? What’s your word for that? You’ve posted on here that money is reallocated to minors and not spent on ML payroll. Seriously you can’t have it both ways…….
Read my post again, Goldfan, and look at the number of system products that are doing well at the major level with the Cardinals. Factor in the fact that the pitching is now ranked #3. Also, look at the trade chips like Alcantara and Gallen.

Now, say something positive. What do you think about taking 2 of 3 from the Phillies?
Wait a minute…you’re using Alcantara and Gallen, two guys that were moved in absolutely horrendous trades that are examples 1 and 1A that the regime has no idea how to evaluate talent…as examples in SUPPORT of Mo and his staff? Wow.

And the series with the Phillies has nothing to do with this discussion.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 19:22 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 18:45 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:30 pm
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 17:25 pm
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 15:33 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 13 Apr 2025 09:04 am
Rojo Johnson wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:31 am
Cranny wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:09 am
Goldfan wrote: 13 Apr 2025 08:03 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 21:05 pm
Goldfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 18:24 pm Very simple question
I BDW isn’t making $$ like Cranny and minions defend….
And BDW really doesn’t care about winning or can no longer afford to win
Why would he want to continue owning the team???
LOL. Funny.
Well whats the answer? You claim he’s not making money, you claim he can’t compete with big markets, he doesn’t appear to have the desire to do what it takes to put the team in a strong position to go deep in playoffs. So why not just take his extraordinary appreciation and move on?
I didn’t say the members of the LLC don’t share in profits. They might. It’s a private company, so it’s hard to tell. And no, the Cardinals obviously can’t sign players to huge FA contracts. They have to rely on the system. That’s a given.
If so, then why did they let the minor league system go to hell the past 10 years or so?
You’ll never get an answer to this from Cranny. He’s ignored it multiple times.
Of course I’ll answer it. Gary Laroque had many good years with the Mets and the Cardinals. But it got to the point that equipment needed to be upgraded and coaches added. There was a loyalty factor and they should have made moves for younger guys like Bloom and Cerfolio several years earlier. On the positive side of the ledger, though, the Cardinal minor league pitchers were recently ranked #3 in minor league baseball. And the system has produced Herrera, Winn, Donovan, Nootbaar, Scott, Gorman, Walker, etc.
This answer has nothing to do with BDW/MO defunding the minor league operation. Again the main thrust AFTER TRL left was broadcast as building from within …….how exactly is this accomplished by gutting the very minor league system thats supposed to be Launching talent to STL?
Gutting the minor league system? Nope. Way too dramatic.
If it’s not gutted then why so understaffed, unequipped, way behind on tech? What’s your word for that? You’ve posted on here that money is reallocated to minors and not spent on ML payroll. Seriously you can’t have it both ways…….
Read my post again, Goldfan, and look at the number of system products that are doing well at the major level with the Cardinals. Factor in the fact that the pitching is now ranked #3. Also, look at the trade chips like Alcantara and Gallen.

Now, say something positive. What do you think about taking 2 of 3 from the Phillies?
Wait a minute…you’re using Alcantara and Gallen, two guys that were moved in absolutely horrendous trades that are examples 1 and 1A that the regime has no idea how to evaluate talent…as examples in SUPPORT of Mo and his staff? Wow.

And the series with the Phillies has nothing to do with this discussion.
I answered the comment that the system was gutted. Try to follow, rat.
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