I hope Binner isn’t hurt. He seemed off after the Perry hit

[BudOnTap]

You're correct, but I am saying I see the good in him and it outweighs the bad by quite a bit

Well yeah…play goal…you’re pretty good at it. I was so happy to see him overcome what he did for Canada.

But take your helmet off and challenge Perry there. Look him in the eyes. Don’t cheap him then puss out and watch your teammates have to fight your battle. The refs would have jumped in as soon as he took his mask off anyways, but at least he is being a better teammate

That’s funny. Your socks have been fighting your battles the last month. Laughing.

this comment is....*chef's kiss*

[callitwhatyouwant]

You're correct, but I am saying I see the good in him and it outweighs the bad by quite a bit

Well yeah…play goal…you’re pretty good at it. I was so happy to see him overcome what he did for Canada.

But take your helmet off and challenge Perry there. Look him in the eyes. Don’t cheap him then puss out and watch your teammates have to fight your battle. The refs would have jumped in as soon as he took his mask off anyways, but at least he is being a better teammate

That’s funny. Your socks have been fighting your battles the last month. Laughing.

those things were like baghdad, bombed out and depleted. (chappelle show for those that don't get the reference)

[theograce]

You're correct, but I am saying I see the good in him and it outweighs the bad by quite a bit

Well yeah…play goal…you’re pretty good at it. I was so happy to see him overcome what he did for Canada.

But take your helmet off and challenge Perry there. Look him in the eyes. Don’t cheap him then puss out and watch your teammates have to fight your battle. The refs would have jumped in as soon as he took his mask off anyways, but at least he is being a better teammate

Cheap shot him? Perry escalated the entire exchange!

Well yeah…what would you call a blow to the back of the head? What would you call trying to then attempting to deliver another blow to the back of the head and trying to drive someone’s head in the ice?

Focus. Don’t get caught up on initiation

You ever play net? Ever put on a blocker and trapper?

Did Berube? Laughing

[Harry York 37]

I was wrong about the angle, but Binnington was absolutely defenseless. His skate blade smacked the bottom of Binner's mask.....
No flesh contact. Luckily.

Very much a prone position. Perry's play was dangerous and I'm sure Binner got some snow in the throat area as well as the head contact. As for him reacting, doggone right, people get PO'd when cheap-shotted. Natural reaction to retaliate. Cooler heads, yada yada Yoda.

If I felt 6' 5" Corey Perry's gangster-azzed skate smack the lower half of my face mask as I was helpless on the ice...

Binner DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WINNING A FIGHT.

He wants the Perrys of the world to be clear about the consequences of blatant, calculated, and dangerous cheap-shots
That is all.

[seattleblue]

It's painful to say this but he reacted to the Perry hit and it destroyed his equanimity and he has cost the Blues two straight games now (don't get me wrong the skaters were mostly pitiful last night). In the first period he looked like the one player locked in. Then it vanished. He's totally off his game. There are either 1 or 5 games left this season and if he managed to get back on form that would be a trick beyond anything he has done thus far in his career. I hope he does it. My favorite player. It's disgusting that it was Perry who ended his mojo. Very frustrating.

[theograce]

It's painful to say this but he reacted to the Perry hit and it destroyed his equanimity and he has cost the Blues two straight games now (don't get me wrong the skaters were mostly pitiful last night). In the first period he looked like the one player locked in. Then it vanished. He's totally off his game. There are either 1 or 5 games left this season and if he managed to get back on form that would be a trick beyond anything he has done thus far in his career. I hope he does it. My favorite player. It's disgusting that it was Perry who ended his mojo. Very frustrating.

Perry barely touched him. It was the shower he hat d most. He hasn’t learned from his past it seems

[seattleblue]

It's painful to say this but he reacted to the Perry hit and it destroyed his equanimity and he has cost the Blues two straight games now (don't get me wrong the skaters were mostly pitiful last night). In the first period he looked like the one player locked in. Then it vanished. He's totally off his game. There are either 1 or 5 games left this season and if he managed to get back on form that would be a trick beyond anything he has done thus far in his career. I hope he does it. My favorite player. It's disgusting that it was Perry who ended his mojo. Very frustrating.

Perry barely touched him. It was the shower he hat d most. He hasn’t learned from his past it seems

It's kind of irrelevant the degree of offense by Perry. It's mostly that it was Perry so you know he has ill intent. He is going to do something you don't like. But you control your own behavior. (A lesson a lot of people in this thread could stand to learn but don't really want to)

[theograce]

It's painful to say this but he reacted to the Perry hit and it destroyed his equanimity and he has cost the Blues two straight games now (don't get me wrong the skaters were mostly pitiful last night). In the first period he looked like the one player locked in. Then it vanished. He's totally off his game. There are either 1 or 5 games left this season and if he managed to get back on form that would be a trick beyond anything he has done thus far in his career. I hope he does it. My favorite player. It's disgusting that it was Perry who ended his mojo. Very frustrating.

Perry barely touched him. It was the shower he hat d most. He hasn’t learned from his past it seems

It's kind of irrelevant the degree of offense by Perry. It's mostly that it was Perry so you know he has ill intent. He is going to do something you don't like. But you control your own behavior. (A lesson a lot of people in this thread could stand to learn but don't really want to)

Neighbours has ill intent. So does Schenn. It’s not Tommy hopscotch time of year.

[seattleblue]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

[DawgDad]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

Given the number and frequency of goal-mouth scrums that occur in the NHL you may have a point. That in no way absolves the instigator and it should not infer there cannot or should not be a reaction. These would not occur and effectively be sanctioned by the league if there was not a purpose behind it. It is not all about the entertainment value, it is more about pressure release and messaging due to the competitive nature of a very physical contact sport. Notably scrums occur when there aren't any fans around, too.

Binner had every right to jump up and get in Perey's face. Given that I'm a Blues fan I have absolutely no problem at all with what he did after that, except he needs to work on his right cross.

I don't believe Binner is off his game, the whole team in front of him is off their mark defensively. None of the goals against were routine "should have had it" goals and he made several outstanding saves in a small sample size. I mean, guys were untouched close in firing off open shots and banging away point blank on him. We even saw Thomas pass up a clearing attempt then turn and pass the puck right to an open Kraken player a few feet away. Grubauer on the other hand didn't even have to move until the 3rd period.

[theograce]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

The frustration and emotion is universal. The behavior and decision making are not … yup

[seattleblue]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

The frustration and emotion is universal. The behavior and decision making are not … yup

That is not true. There is not one person here who hasn't overreacted to foreseeable circumstances. You. Me. Everyone. It's part of life. None of us are superior to Binnington's reaction to Perry all of the time. That's the [shirt]ty thing about wisdom, you have to do it all the time and nobody can. And if they can, they aren't posting on sports boards. This is why I questioned you mocking him initially or saying everyone should mock him. I don't think it has a lot of value in the context that we all do it. We all recognize Binnington's emotion in that spot, it's because we are familiar with other people and with ourselves.

[theograce]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

The frustration and emotion is universal. The behavior and decision making are not … yup

That is not true.

Of course it’s true. You talking about one time for someone doesn’t make it universal. People respond to stimuli in different ways based on numerous variables/factors and and also learn through experience.

[seattleblue]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

The frustration and emotion is universal. The behavior and decision making are not … yup

That is not true.

Of course it’s true. You talking about one time for someone doesn’t make it universal. People respond to stimuli in different ways based on numerous variables/factors and and also learn through experience.

yep it's just me who has overreacted to foreseeable circumstances in his life.
You have never done that, my bad, I apologize for including you in the human condition

[theograce]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

The frustration and emotion is universal. The behavior and decision making are not … yup

That is not true.

Of course it’s true. You talking about one time for someone doesn’t make it universal. People respond to stimuli in different ways based on numerous variables/factors and and also learn through experience.

yep it's just me who has overreacted to foreseeable circumstances in his life.
You have never done that, my bad, I apologize for including you in the human condition

You’re saying something totally irrelevant. Of course I’ve overreacted and acted poorly. That has nothing to do with the fact that people respond differently based on their past, upbringing, temperament/disposition, hormones, fatigue …. On and on and on. Plus, experience is a factor as stated.

If your boss tells you that you need to stop acting like an in idiot … most people change their behavior or deal with the consequences because they 1 are incapable or 2 choose not to.

[seattleblue]

Yep that's my point. Overreaction to extremely foreseeable circumstance. It looks like it's part of the human condition tbh

Given the number and frequency of goal-mouth scrums that occur in the NHL you may have a point. That in no way absolves the instigator and it should not infer there cannot or should not be a reaction. These would not occur and effectively be sanctioned by the league if there was not a purpose behind it. It is not all about the entertainment value, it is more about pressure release and messaging due to the competitive nature of a very physical contact sport. Notably scrums occur when there aren't any fans around, too.

Binner had every right to jump up and get in Perey's face. Given that I'm a Blues fan I have absolutely no problem at all with what he did after that, except he needs to work on his right cross.

I don't believe Binner is off his game, the whole team in front of him is off their mark defensively. None of the goals against were routine "should have had it" goals and he made several outstanding saves in a small sample size. I mean, guys were untouched close in firing off open shots and banging away point blank on him. We even saw Thomas pass up a clearing attempt then turn and pass the puck right to an open Kraken player a few feet away. Grubauer on the other hand didn't even have to move until the 3rd period.

I'm not disagreeing or litigating that he was right or wrong. I mean they went to the intermission and Lundqvist was like "of course Perry meant to do it." We all know the play. Perry goes to the crease to be a [shirt] disturber and Binnington knows this in advance and can thus decide in advance whether he wants to lose his cool even in a cheap shot situation. Like I said elsewhere in the thread I perceived him trying to do too much / get his team fired up when he made that choice. But I think he is off his equilibrium. I think the whole team is gassed. They were not moving their feet very much last night. I'm not pointing the finger just at 50. I love 50. People last night were like "who wears '50' for Team Canada?" seeing only part of a jersey. I have seen his A game as have you and this is not it. I feel like it takes him a bit of time to get back on form and he will but there's no runway. I want to be wrong on this one.