$2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:00 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 11 Apr 2025 19:26 pm
Cranny wrote: 11 Apr 2025 09:45 am
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Cash flow is a better gauge than net profit. What's 7% of $2.55 Billion? Debt service that, including any principal reduction required by the banks each year.
No it’s not. A man whose net worth is north of $2 billion should not have liquidity issues. Lending institutions, investors line up in droves to provide cash flow solutions to individuals with underlying assets in the billions. Ridiculous assertion.
What’s ridiculous is someone who thinks a billionaire
is going to personally guarantee a company loan.
They don’t have to. Learn accounting and finance.
That nonsense you spewed is accounting and finance? Good one. What next, Mikolas for Cy Young??

Beyond ignorant that you try to differentiate the Company from the man. Bill Dewitt = the Cardinals. JerryJones = the Cowboys, etc. No one takes a dump in the organization without Dollar Bill’s permission. There is no “they.” All other investors are just that: passive investors.

You better call it a night. Sunday is your day to wash and wax the DeWitt fleet, right?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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thetank2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
YNWA2016 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
this is how the Cards owners have operated forever, and Cards fans have been letting them get away with it for far tooo long. the Cards will never win another NL pennant until they get new owners. the sooner all cards fans pundits former players realize that.. the better. not sure why everyone don't know that already. I already this over 4 years ago
They obviously put a good product on the field.
They used to, anyway.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
You know that for sure, Alex?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Attendance is down: self-inflicted.
POBO clean slate: self-inflicted, thanks to bad contracts and the appalling desire to sacrifice 2025 to the John Mozeliak Farewell Tour
Cable revenue down: partially self-inflicted. Sure, lots of people cut the cord, but would they if the team was winning and fun to watch?
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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desertrat23 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:01 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Attendance is down: self-inflicted.
POBO clean slate: self-inflicted, thanks to bad contracts and the appalling desire to sacrifice 2025 to the John Mozeliak Farewell Tour
Cable revenue down: partially self-inflicted. Sure, lots of people cut the cord, but would they if the team was winning and fun to watch?
You want to go out and sign some free agents to multi-year contracts when you're handing the reins over to a new
boss next season? Not going to happen.
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Re: $2.55B Valuation $395M Revenue $34M Profit

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Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Oh I not only "see it" cranny I've been among the earliest to see it pointing out all offseason that BDWJr was slashing payroll because he fears a loss of 500,000 - 1,000,000 in attendance if the team fails to contend w/o adding players.

Local Cable revenue, other than LAD/NYY, is down for all team yet they all spent this offseason adding players.

You have no idea if there's a "big time strike" looming.

Pretty sure C. Bloom could've had a say over adding players as well.

The Cardinals went cheap this offseason, just accept it.
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rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:56 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Oh I not only "see it" cranny I've been among the earliest to see it pointing out all offseason that BDWJr was slashing payroll because he fears a loss of 500,000 - 1,000,000 in attendance if the team fails to contend w/o adding players.

Local Cable revenue, other than LAD/NYY, is down for all team yet they all spent this offseason adding players.

You have no idea if there's a "big time strike" looming.

Pretty sure C. Bloom could've had a say over adding players as well.

The Cardinals went cheap this offseason, just accept it.
Bloom is spending 90+ % of his time on strengthening the pipeline. Strike? Most pundits say it's on the horizon.
Major market teams? If the cable contracts are down, they still have much more money to spend than middle market to small market teams on buying players. It's all relative.
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Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:13 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:56 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Oh I not only "see it" cranny I've been among the earliest to see it pointing out all offseason that BDWJr was slashing payroll because he fears a loss of 500,000 - 1,000,000 in attendance if the team fails to contend w/o adding players.

Local Cable revenue, other than LAD/NYY, is down for all team yet they all spent this offseason adding players.

You have no idea if there's a "big time strike" looming.

Pretty sure C. Bloom could've had a say over adding players as well.

The Cardinals went cheap this offseason, just accept it.
Bloom is spending 90+ % of his time on strengthening the pipeline. Strike? Most pundits say it's on the horizon.
Major market teams? If the cable contracts are down, they still have much more money to spend than middle market to small market teams on buying players. It's all relative.
He's been doing that since 2024, staying in the background so as not to step on Mo's toes in his final season but still very much in the loop as far as moves.

Sure there can be a strike, definitely will be if owners insist on a salary cap.

But I'll ask, why didn't all the other owners in MLB slash as much payroll as possible this past offseason then?

Soto $700M
Vlad, Jr $500M

In total over $3.53B was spent by owners of MLB team this offseason, an embarrassing $2M of that came from BDWjr. :oops:

Dewitt went cheap and only a fool would argue he didn't, you're not a fool cranny.
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Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:49 am
desertrat23 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:01 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Attendance is down: self-inflicted.
POBO clean slate: self-inflicted, thanks to bad contracts and the appalling desire to sacrifice 2025 to the John Mozeliak Farewell Tour
Cable revenue down: partially self-inflicted. Sure, lots of people cut the cord, but would they if the team was winning and fun to watch?
You want to go out and sign some free agents to multi-year contracts when you're handing the reins over to a new
boss next season? Not going to happen.
What a fallacious and disingenuous argument, Cranny. Bloom is already employed by Skinflint Bill. Bloom also has the ability to communicate. He and Bill could have collaborated to make sure the Cards got some new players and didn’t have a crummy season for the third year in a row. Why do you think you can tell us Moe has to be gone before the Cards can worry about the future? Surely, you don’t believe that. That’s completely illogical. Come up with some better stuff, dude.
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Rojo Johnson wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:33 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:49 am
desertrat23 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 09:01 am
Cranny wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:43 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:22 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 11 Apr 2025 21:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 08:54 am Cardinals Valuation/$2.55B, Revenues/$395M and Net Profit/$34M in 2024.

Plus only 7% Debt as % of value.

Yet BDWJr sought to slash as much payroll as he could this offseason while adding only one major league player, P. Maton at $2M. :oops:


CNBC’s Official MLB Team Valuations 2025: Here’s how the 30 franchises stack up

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/cnbcs-o ... -2025.html
Thanks for posting, they have plenty of money.
Welcome Alex and you're spot on, BDWJr crying "poor mouth" and slashing payroll w/o using it to add players this season is a joke.
I guess you don’t see the situation, rock. Cable revenue is down, attendance is down, a big time strike is looming, and you want to give your new POBO as clean a slate as possible going into 2026 (as few long term contracts as possible).
Attendance is down: self-inflicted.
POBO clean slate: self-inflicted, thanks to bad contracts and the appalling desire to sacrifice 2025 to the John Mozeliak Farewell Tour
Cable revenue down: partially self-inflicted. Sure, lots of people cut the cord, but would they if the team was winning and fun to watch?
You want to go out and sign some free agents to multi-year contracts when you're handing the reins over to a new
boss next season? Not going to happen.
What a fallacious and disingenuous argument, Cranny. Bloom is already employed by Skinflint Bill. Bloom also has the ability to communicate. He and Bill could have collaborated to make sure the Cards got some new players and didn’t have a crummy season for the third year in a row. Why do you think you can tell us Moe has to be gone before the Cards can worry about the future? Surely, you don’t believe that. That’s completely illogical. Come up with some better stuff, dude.

Worry about the future, Rojo? The Cardinals know that the key to a successful future lies in the prospects and development process in the minor league system. Bloom was successful in that area at Tampa and Boston. Cerfolio was successful in that area with Cleveland. That's where they're spending their time. Bloom will kick it into high gear at the major league level when he takes over as POBO. But first things first.
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I am starting to see things your way, Cranny. No one in the FO can multi-task, which is why we are where we are. They are not used to chewing gum and walking at the same time. Most business orgs can’t, can they? Doing one thing at a time is a valuable skill to have as a Cardinal FO guy. Yet, we can give out contracts to managers and tell them and the fans there’s no pressure to win.
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Rojo Johnson wrote: 12 Apr 2025 11:08 am I am starting to see things your way, Cranny. No one in the FO can multi-task, which is why we are where we are. They are not used to chewing gum and walking at the same time. Most business orgs can’t, can they? Doing one thing at a time is a valuable skill to have as a Cardinal FO guy. Yet, we can give out contracts to managers and tell them and the fans there’s no pressure to win.
That was a dumb statement, wasn’t it?
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If you are going to tell an American business how to run the company and how much profit it should make and they don't listen to your sage advice, you might consider spending discretionary dollars elsewhere.
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