GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
ramfandan wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:33 pm Thanks, Duce !

The move everyone (most everyone ) as been waiting for .. Contreras removed from 2nd spot .. Been wondering how long it would be til Oli moved Walker up from his 7th spot . Now we know .. it's today !
Well….it’s because Contreras isn’t playing today. I wouldn’t rule out Contreras out of the 2nd spot tomorrow just based off of today.
I would
Why? Someone had to hit 2nd today. Doesn’t mean Contreras won’t be there when he plays next.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 8:15pm

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craviduce wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:14 pm Friday night home games are the Lou Brown uniforms

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Minus the hat and sleeve patch, I presume? I believe Chief Wahoo is retired.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
ramfandan wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:33 pm Thanks, Duce !

The move everyone (most everyone ) as been waiting for .. Contreras removed from 2nd spot .. Been wondering how long it would be til Oli moved Walker up from his 7th spot . Now we know .. it's today !
Well….it’s because Contreras isn’t playing today. I wouldn’t rule out Contreras out of the 2nd spot tomorrow just based off of today.
I would
Ditto

From Bernie:

Manager Oli Marmol can help the situation by easing Contreras out of the No. 2 lineup slot and letting him regroup at a lower spot in the batting order.

Paul Goldschmidt offers a good example. Last season, when Goldy batted 2-3-4 in the lineup, he hit .218 with a .641 OPS. When Marmol used Goldschmidt in the 5-6-7 spots last season, the results were much better: a .329 average and .942 OPS.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
ramfandan wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:33 pm Thanks, Duce !

The move everyone (most everyone ) as been waiting for .. Contreras removed from 2nd spot .. Been wondering how long it would be til Oli moved Walker up from his 7th spot . Now we know .. it's today !
Well….it’s because Contreras isn’t playing today. I wouldn’t rule out Contreras out of the 2nd spot tomorrow just based off of today.
I would
Ditto

From Bernie:

Manager Oli Marmol can help the situation by easing Contreras out of the No. 2 lineup slot and letting him regroup at a lower spot in the batting order.

Paul Goldschmidt offers a good example. Last season, when Goldy batted 2-3-4 in the lineup, he hit .218 with a .641 OPS. When Marmol used Goldschmidt in the 5-6-7 spots last season, the results were much better: a .329 average and .942 OPS.
And how long did it take before he made that switch? Was 4 months, wasn't it?

My guess is Long Con's back in the 2-hole tomorrow. Marmol's the most stubborn *ss of a manager I've ever seen, especially when it comes to Contreras. In 23, he kept Long Con in the 5-hole for the first 2 months and he was hitting .150 with a .500 OPS.

I wish it were otherwise but I fear we're doomed until this guy is gone.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:43 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:41 pm
ramfandan wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:33 pm Thanks, Duce !

The move everyone (most everyone ) as been waiting for .. Contreras removed from 2nd spot .. Been wondering how long it would be til Oli moved Walker up from his 7th spot . Now we know .. it's today !
Well….it’s because Contreras isn’t playing today. I wouldn’t rule out Contreras out of the 2nd spot tomorrow just based off of today.
I would
Why? Someone had to hit 2nd today. Doesn’t mean Contreras won’t be there when he plays next.
I said Oli wouldn't have Winn leading off to start the season...guess what, he didn't.

I give Oli more credit than most. He let WillyCon have 10+ games there and now a respite. I don't believe he will reinsert him back at the 2 hole. Especially if JWs performs.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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This is an important early season acid test.
I have an uncomfortable feeling that we are going to get hammered.
(A shining beacon of light, I know).
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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imetsatchelpaige wrote: 11 Apr 2025 14:07 pm This is an important early season acid test.
I have an uncomfortable feeling that we are going to get hammered.
(A shining beacon of light, I know).
realism
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 8:15pm

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blackinkbiz wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:43 pm
82birds wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:21 pm
craviduce wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:16 pm 6 Hours out from game time has to be a new managerial record for a lineup 8O
I'd prefer competence over earliness
Haha!

at both the joke and the idea of competence from this manager.

Heard Oli's postgame explanation for why he removed Fedde after 6IP and 88 pitches the other day. Paraphrasing here but:

"Well we decided before the game we didn't want to push him more than 100 pitches and since he was already at 88, just thought it'd be easier to take him then."

First, this is the regular season and your BP is suspect because your burning through arms faster than Trump goes through tanning oil. Second, you've got a no-hitter going and it's a 0-0 game. Your pre-game outline should be more fluid in that situation. Third, EVERY SINGLE BATTER matters so even if you can just get through 1 or 2 hitters, that's less strain on your BP.

Finally, and this is and will always be Paint-By-Numbers Oli's weakess: you can NOT script out games beforehand and force the game to adapt to your script, if you want to win it's the OTHER WAY AROUND. Same thing he said in 22 against the Phils. "Everything went according to script until that last inning."

I seriously hate this F more than I ever thought it was possible to dislike a manager.
what joke?
what I said was not a joke.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Thanks, Crav.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Schwarber, like Goldschmidt, is bouncing between leadoff and cleanup. It used to be those roles had zero overlap. And thanks, craviduce.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Obviously Philly doesn't read into the "Pallante is harder on lefties than righties" metrics
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:24 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:18 pm I love seeing Walker hitting 2nd! :D :D
Ditto

And when WillyC returns to the lineup, he needs to be no higher than 5th and preferably 6th.
#6 is where Contreras should bat when he returns.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Shady wrote: 11 Apr 2025 17:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:24 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 13:18 pm I love seeing Walker hitting 2nd! :D :D
Ditto

And when WillyC returns to the lineup, he needs to be no higher than 5th and preferably 6th.
#6 is where Contreras should bat when he returns.
That is correct
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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Granddaughter is singing the national anthem with the choir, so we are at the game!!
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Phillies (4/11) ~ 7:15pm CDT

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I prefer Scott the igniter at lead off, Noot seemed to come back to earth a bit
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