GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Dumb to sit Herrera
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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RamFan08NY wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:14 am I like it. Switching the lineup a bit, and not sacrificing anything. Walker sitting could also be due to sore wrist.

If the Cards are going to be successful this year, they'll need contributions from 10-11 position players.
Thank you. Already clinched the series, which, if done for the year, yields 100+ wins.

Early season declarations (good and bad) are laughable, as is the handwringing ,and sandy panties, over letting others play.

Thanks Duce!
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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OldRed wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:34 am
craviduce wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:28 am TWINS (0-2)

Lineup

1. Matt Wallner (L) ~ RF
2. Carlos Correa (R) ~ SS
3. Byron Buxton (R) ~ CF
4. Trevor Larnach (L) ~ DH
5. Ryan Jeffers (R) ~ C
6. Ty France (R) ~ 1B
7. Will Castro (S) ~ 2B
8. Jose Miranda (R) ~ 3B
9. Harrison Bader (R) ~ LF

RHP Bailey Ober (0-0, -.-- ERA)

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CARDINALS (2-0)

Lineup

1. Lars Nootbaar (L) ~ RF
2. Willson Contreras (R) ~ DH
3. Brendan Donovan (L) ~ LF
4. Nolan Arenado (R) ~ 3B
5. Alec Burleson (L) ~ 1B
6. Nolan Gorman (L) ~ 2B
7. Pedro Pages (R) ~ C
8. Victor Scott II (L) ~ CF
9. Masyn Winn (R) ~ SS

RHP Andre Pallante (0-0, -.-- ERA)
Thanks for posting the lineup. I would rather see the same lineup as the first two games because of the great defense. But I guess some players need at bats.
I was expecting gorman to be rotated in cuz he needs at bats and to be rotated for others in coming games but was hoping we wouldnt see pages start already
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:19 am I don’t complain about them giving Herrera a break behind the plate. I would think it’s going to be close to a 60-40 split between him and Pages, and I can live with that. However, let him DH and keep Contreras at 1B. The guy has done nothing but hit. I know Oli loves him some Burleson, but no need to force ABs for him.
Herrera is under 25……played 2 games……is red hot…..
You don’t sit him
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Goldfan wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:39 am
OldRed wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:34 am
craviduce wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:28 am TWINS (0-2)

Lineup

1. Matt Wallner (L) ~ RF
2. Carlos Correa (R) ~ SS
3. Byron Buxton (R) ~ CF
4. Trevor Larnach (L) ~ DH
5. Ryan Jeffers (R) ~ C
6. Ty France (R) ~ 1B
7. Will Castro (S) ~ 2B
8. Jose Miranda (R) ~ 3B
9. Harrison Bader (R) ~ LF

RHP Bailey Ober (0-0, -.-- ERA)

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CARDINALS (2-0)

Lineup

1. Lars Nootbaar (L) ~ RF
2. Willson Contreras (R) ~ DH
3. Brendan Donovan (L) ~ LF
4. Nolan Arenado (R) ~ 3B
5. Alec Burleson (L) ~ 1B
6. Nolan Gorman (L) ~ 2B
7. Pedro Pages (R) ~ C
8. Victor Scott II (L) ~ CF
9. Masyn Winn (R) ~ SS

RHP Andre Pallante (0-0, -.-- ERA)
Thanks for posting the lineup. I would rather see the same lineup as the first two games because of the great defense. But I guess some players need at bats.
This team could use a 12-0 start…..it needs confidence and if a lineup is hitting and winning…..I don’t care if bench players need AB’s. Win games. Herrera has been a beast….Walker has been getting on base…..Bench Winn and Contreras if you need to “give AB’s to bench”
Contreras will be fine. Its early. I normally wouldnt be opposed to benching winn, but he almost has to start most games by necessity because donovan isnt a shortstop. And while donny would have arenado at 3b, its not like gorman at 2b is gonna help donny with covering ground up the middle and a ss/2b combo of donny and gorman would truly be one of the worst defensive middle infields in the league.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:19 am Dumb to sit Herrera
Herrera does not need rest 3 games into the season. And Friday was a day off. Pages is a bloated nothing burger. He should get 1 game a week.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Not a fan of Oli but I’ll cede to him here.
Only game #3:
Pages is going to catch 1 of every 3 or 4 games regardless. I understand Herrera is swinging it well but catcher being the physically demanding position it is good to keep him fresh. Plus you have LH pitchers coming up so he could easily DH a game.
Gorman needs to play his share. RH SP ok to sit Walker for a game.
Of the 4 reserves who haven’t started first two:
Pages- needs to start every 3rd or 4th game.
Gorman- needs to play also.
The other two supply either late game defense(Siani) or a RH PH bat(Baker).

TLR was a master of incorporating his bench.
Oli has a long ways to go but it‘s a start.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Cusecards wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:46 am Not a fan of Oli but I’ll cede to him here.
Only game #3:
Pages is going to catch 1 of every 3 or 4 games regardless. I understand Herrera is swinging it well but catcher being the physically demanding position it is good to keep him fresh. Plus you have LH pitchers coming up so he could easily DH a game.
Gorman needs to play his share. RH SP ok to sit Walker for a game.
Of the 4 reserves who haven’t started first two:
Pages- needs to start every 3rd or 4th game.
Gorman- needs to play also.
The other two supply either late game defense(Siani) or a RH PH bat(Baker).

TLR was a master of incorporating his bench.
Oli has a long ways to go but it‘s a start.
Yep. And Baker will get a start tomorrow vs Anderson (or should).
Noot, Donny, and Scott will be the only LH in the lineup.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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icon wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:43 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:19 am Dumb to sit Herrera
Herrera does not need rest 3 games into the season. And Friday was a day off. Pages is a bloated nothing burger. He should get 1 game a week.
No kidding I guess Herrera can’t start more than one game in a row without needing a day off
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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wkycards wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:33 am Thanks 'duce.
Burly will hit today, he seems to hit better when he plays defense.
He plays defense?
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Cusecards wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:46 am Not a fan of Oli but I’ll cede to him here.
Only game #3:
Pages is going to catch 1 of every 3 or 4 games regardless. I understand Herrera is swinging it well but catcher being the physically demanding position it is good to keep him fresh. Plus you have LH pitchers coming up so he could easily DH a game.
Gorman needs to play his share. RH SP ok to sit Walker for a game.
Of the 4 reserves who haven’t started first two:
Pages- needs to start every 3rd or 4th game.
Gorman- needs to play also.
The other two supply either late game defense(Siani) or a RH PH bat(Baker).

TLR was a master of incorporating his bench.
Oli has a long ways to go but it‘s a start.
This team's biggest issue last year was offense. Pages offers little in the way of that. Why should he be guaranteed more than 1 start per week with the fallout of benching Herrera's bat? Pages should get 30 starts max unless he shows he can hit more.
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craviduce wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:28 am TWINS (0-2)

Lineup

1. Matt Wallner (L) ~ RF
2. Carlos Correa (R) ~ SS
3. Byron Buxton (R) ~ CF
4. Trevor Larnach (L) ~ DH
5. Ryan Jeffers (R) ~ C
6. Ty France (R) ~ 1B
7. Will Castro (S) ~ 2B
8. Jose Miranda (R) ~ 3B
9. Harrison Bader (R) ~ LF

RHP Bailey Ober (0-0, -.-- ERA)

-------

CARDINALS (2-0)

Lineup

1. Lars Nootbaar (L) ~ RF
2. Willson Contreras (R) ~ DH
3. Brendan Donovan (L) ~ LF
4. Nolan Arenado (R) ~ 3B
5. Alec Burleson (L) ~ 1B
6. Nolan Gorman (L) ~ 2B
7. Pedro Pages (R) ~ C
8. Victor Scott II (L) ~ CF
9. Masyn Winn (R) ~ SS

RHP Andre Pallante (0-0, -.-- ERA)
Graphics budget cut?
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Absolut wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:54 am
wkycards wrote: 30 Mar 2025 09:33 am Thanks 'duce.
Burly will hit today, he seems to hit better when he plays defense.
He plays defense?
He occupies a position. :)
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Reaching game Face is hard. It’s even harder to stay there. Best way to kill game face is not play.

Two games. If they need rest now, let’s just quit.
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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icon wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:54 am
Cusecards wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:46 am Not a fan of Oli but I’ll cede to him here.
Only game #3:
Pages is going to catch 1 of every 3 or 4 games regardless. I understand Herrera is swinging it well but catcher being the physically demanding position it is good to keep him fresh. Plus you have LH pitchers coming up so he could easily DH a game.
Gorman needs to play his share. RH SP ok to sit Walker for a game.
Of the 4 reserves who haven’t started first two:
Pages- needs to start every 3rd or 4th game.
Gorman- needs to play also.
The other two supply either late game defense(Siani) or a RH PH bat(Baker).

TLR was a master of incorporating his bench.
Oli has a long ways to go but it‘s a start.
This team's biggest issue last year was offense. Pages offers little in the way of that. Why should he be guaranteed more than 1 start per week with the fallout of benching Herrera's bat? Pages should get 30 starts max unless he shows he can hit more.
Or if you feel compelled to play pages DH Herrera and sit burly
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Re: GDT: Cards vs. Twins (3/30) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:52 am
icon wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:43 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 30 Mar 2025 10:19 am Dumb to sit Herrera
Herrera does not need rest 3 games into the season. And Friday was a day off. Pages is a bloated nothing burger. He should get 1 game a week.
No kidding I guess Herrera can’t start more than one game in a row without needing a day off
I agree... he can DH if you want him to have a day off catching.
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