VSII / Siani Defense

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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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Jatalk wrote: 28 Mar 2025 18:36 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:22 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:08 pm Is Siani a better CF defensively than Scott? If so, by how much? Is the difference glaring or minimal?

I personally feel that if Siani is better defensively in CF that it is not by much as they both have GG ability IMO.

Thus, I don't feel it justifies displacing your starting CF to RF for a defensive replacement late. Siani to RF would accomplish the same thing IMO.

I am sure this topic is viewed as not important to a lot because the overall impact on the field is nonexistent. But, I think it does matter to Scott who I am sure takes great pride in his CF defense.

I am on the record as being a poster that thinks Siani shouldn't be on the MLB roster. I would have gone w/ Barrero. I think Barrero as a PR and defensive replacement in RF yesterday would have accomplished the same as Siani. Also, Barrero has the ability to play SS, have a little pop, and bat RH.
Barrero could PR and play RF.

But unlike Siani, you may not want to underutilize Barrero in this role.

The org obviously wants to give a long-ish look to the current players on the roster. Which means Barrero is buried on the bench.

He's better off getting regular ABs in AAA and remaining fresh.

(Reminder: OD roster isn't forever)
100% correct. No sense pushing him up to be on bench.

As far as Siani or Scott, I’m good with either one. I’m not sure Siani could have made that play Scott did.
It was a heck of a catch, but I agree w OldFriend. No reason to think MS doesn’t make that catch.

I’m very happy, so far, with both being on the roster.

As we can see (just from one game, I know), the org wants to play the players on the roster. Barrero, currently, would be buried.

Siani complements the current strategy. And yes, I like him playing RF or LF in late innings if Scott is starting.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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TheFantasyStud wrote: 28 Mar 2025 15:05 pm One thing that always comes to mind when people say Siani is a gold glove defender and better than Victor.

Victor has a Gold Glove on his shelf
Siani does not.
This is a great point, FS!
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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ecleme22 wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:22 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:08 pm Is Siani a better CF defensively than Scott? If so, by how much? Is the difference glaring or minimal?

I personally feel that if Siani is better defensively in CF that it is not by much as they both have GG ability IMO.

Thus, I don't feel it justifies displacing your starting CF to RF for a defensive replacement late. Siani to RF would accomplish the same thing IMO.

I am sure this topic is viewed as not important to a lot because the overall impact on the field is nonexistent. But, I think it does matter to Scott who I am sure takes great pride in his CF defense.

I am on the record as being a poster that thinks Siani shouldn't be on the MLB roster. I would have gone w/ Barrero. I think Barrero as a PR and defensive replacement in RF yesterday would have accomplished the same as Siani. Also, Barrero has the ability to play SS, have a little pop, and bat RH.
Barrero could PR and play RF.

But unlike Siani, you may not want to underutilize Barrero in this role.

The org obviously wants to give a long-ish look to the current players on the roster. Which means Barrero is buried on the bench.

He's better off getting regular ABs in AAA and remaining fresh.

(Reminder: OD roster isn't forever)
Barrero is not that kind of guy. He’s not a prospect anymore really. He’s perfectly fine as that 26th man.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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An Old Friend wrote: 28 Mar 2025 18:59 pm
Jatalk wrote: 28 Mar 2025 18:36 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:22 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 28 Mar 2025 14:08 pm Is Siani a better CF defensively than Scott? If so, by how much? Is the difference glaring or minimal?

I personally feel that if Siani is better defensively in CF that it is not by much as they both have GG ability IMO.

Thus, I don't feel it justifies displacing your starting CF to RF for a defensive replacement late. Siani to RF would accomplish the same thing IMO.

I am sure this topic is viewed as not important to a lot because the overall impact on the field is nonexistent. But, I think it does matter to Scott who I am sure takes great pride in his CF defense.

I am on the record as being a poster that thinks Siani shouldn't be on the MLB roster. I would have gone w/ Barrero. I think Barrero as a PR and defensive replacement in RF yesterday would have accomplished the same as Siani. Also, Barrero has the ability to play SS, have a little pop, and bat RH.
Barrero could PR and play RF.

But unlike Siani, you may not want to underutilize Barrero in this role.

The org obviously wants to give a long-ish look to the current players on the roster. Which means Barrero is buried on the bench.

He's better off getting regular ABs in AAA and remaining fresh.

(Reminder: OD roster isn't forever)
100% correct. No sense pushing him up to be on bench.

As far as Siani or Scott, I’m good with either one. I’m not sure Siani could have made that play Scott did.
It had a 60% catch probability and Siani was basically a top 3 defensive CF last season. Let’s be serious.
Ok I take it back. Siani would make the play based on catch today.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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I love the 2d guessing of Cardinal decisions. "Darn we kept Helsley. Shoot we didn't trade Fedde. Heck we didn't give Arenado away. Nootbar has shown me nothing.... Who needs Siani late in the game. Blah, blah, blah."

That was a nice play against the CF wall in the 9th. Doesn't suck that Scott is in RF, Noot in LF and Siani CF late innings. You won't see the relievers complaining.

I think we will see some pretty good baseball this year.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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I still wish they took Barrero over Siani. Siani glove is great, but Barrero is a MUCH better fit. A RH swiss army knife. Siani has one tool.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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Jobu's Rum wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:17 pm I still wish they took Barrero over Siani. Siani glove is great, but Barrero is a MUCH better fit. A RH swiss army knife. Siani has one tool.
Swiss army knives are cool, but sometimes you just need an elite can opener.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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Jobu's Rum wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:17 pm I still wish they took Barrero over Siani. Siani glove is great, but Barrero is a MUCH better fit. A RH swiss army knife. Siani has one tool.
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Re: VSII / Siani Defense

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Jobu's Rum wrote: 29 Mar 2025 16:17 pm I still wish they took Barrero over Siani. Siani glove is great, but Barrero is a MUCH better fit. A RH swiss army knife. Siani has one tool.
Ifnthey truly do plan to only use siani as defensive replacement mostly as they say, that at least means that gorman should get the lions worth of starts off the bench fir all the other starters receiving offdays with donovan rotating around which is good cuz he needs somewhat regular at bats if hes gonna ha e a chance to rebound from last year. More bench guys competing for at bats means less consistent playing time for everyone. Siani will be a defensive sub and baker will be platoon vs lefties only. Gorman will get a chance to be bench pseudo starter.
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