Siani isn't blocking anyone

[StlMike1969]

So it's guys that can hit that are blocking other players? Are we required to set aside a certain number of spots for guys who can't hit?

It’s guys the org is giving a long leash to.

Keep in mind that may change.

But as they give these players a long leash, Siani makes sense.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. There is no scenario I can see where Siani makes sense. A couple all glove types are fine when your regular starting lineup can rake. That is very much not the case here.

We can agree to disagree, but here is the scenario Siani makes sense: when there is currently NO playing time available on the MLB roster, coupled with suspect outfield defense.

You can be sure if the offense looks like a black hole, Siani will be optioned for X player, and X player will get a long look.

But for now, they want to give guys on the current roster a long look...

Last year the offense WAS a black hole, yet Koperniak never sniffed the Ml roster.

Why do you believe this year will be different?

The real truth on this also will be if Walker and Gorman keeping to their career norms and underwhelm are allowed to play at sub par levels for months on end. It really should be 45 days at most and if they do not perform Koperniak and Saggesse/Prieto get the call ups and these guys go to AAA (Walker) or trade (Gorman). Koperniak deserves a shot. Guys can bloom late. Matt may just be one of those. I also have to ask how long of a leash Marmol is going to be given. A small part of me wishes this team sucks wind simply to toss out Marmol and Mo all in one fell swoop. Come All star break Bloom takes over. Makes changes like this and team makes playoffs.

[ecleme22]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

In 2014, PB was laughably treated like the starting CF.

Bad example.

[Futuregm2]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

In 2014, PB was laughably treated like the starting CF.

Bad example.

Our CF’s in 2024 make Bourjos look like Jim Edmonds in CF.

[rockondlouie]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

In 2014, PB was laughably treated like the starting CF.

Bad example.

Our CF’s in 2024 make Bourjos look like Jim Edmonds in CF.

For the IGNORED ecleme: FABULOUS and PERFECT EXAMPLE---Two Great defensive, speedy POOR HITTING CF'ers.

[ecleme22]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

In 2014, PB was laughably treated like the starting CF.

Bad example.

Our CF’s in 2024 make Bourjos look like Jim Edmonds in CF.

Agreed. But now it's 2025 and Scott is starting.

Also, Rock is a snowflake. Dude put me on ignore for the softest of reasons.

[rockondlouie]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

[ecleme22]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

Siani won't be used like PB in 2014.

[Futuregm2]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

Siani won't be used like PB in 2014.

Bourjos had less than 300 PAs in 2014. Siani was used more last year and was worse.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

Siani won't be used like PB in 2014.

Bourjos had less than 300 PAs in 2014. Siani was used more last year and was worse.

Siani should have more put outs than at bats.

[ecleme22]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

Siani won't be used like PB in 2014.

Bourjos had less than 300 PAs in 2014. Siani was used more last year and was worse.

He was used a lot early in 2014.

Siani only played so much in 2024 because he was the only option...

[Futuregm2]

Michael Siani = Peter Bourjos

+1 a waste of a roster spot

Siani:
.220 .275 .272 .547
54 OPS+


Bourjos (Cardinal yrs):
.218 .292 .342 .634
76 OPS+

OMGosh, Siani is actually WORSE than Bourjos!

Siani won't be used like PB in 2014.

Bourjos had less than 300 PAs in 2014. Siani was used more last year and was worse.

He was used a lot early in 2014.

Siani only played so much in 2024 because he was the only option...

It’s shocking that they would trade for the player and then use them a lot early on. Especially coming off a year where he had a 102 OPS+ the year before.

Siani wasn’t the only option, but he was the most loved option, just like you say Bourjos was in 2014. I see some comps from Bourjos/Siani in 2014/24 and how they will be/were played in 2025/15. I think it’s kind of crazy to act like the Siani situation is that much different than the Bourjos situation. Neither should be/should have been on the rosters in year 2.

Seeing you start all of these Siani threads/Scott threads is really showing how crazy you are going over this.

[Basil Shabazz]

sitting on the mlb bench is not a spot for a up and coming player. with burly that is 4 outfielders playing with Siani riding the pine and defensive sub very late. That is not a slot for a developing prospect , its a spot for rotting away utility guy etc.

We will see, if Siani plays alot, then it is an issue. He is a low ceiling guy who should not have resources wasted on him, playing time is a resource.

Barrero is not a developing prospect. He is a low floor/high ceiling lottery ticket that bats RH and plays + defense at SS and CF. Having him on the team over Siani keeps Noot out of CF(lower risk of injury) and Donnie off of SS.

We are not developing Jose Barrero!

Siani makes no sense. We are occupying a roster spot on a guy who cannot hit his weight to be a defensive replacement for one player(Walker). Scott and Noot do not need a defensive replacement.

Just as true now as it was 6 weeks ago.

[ecleme22]

sitting on the mlb bench is not a spot for a up and coming player. with burly that is 4 outfielders playing with Siani riding the pine and defensive sub very late. That is not a slot for a developing prospect , its a spot for rotting away utility guy etc.

We will see, if Siani plays alot, then it is an issue. He is a low ceiling guy who should not have resources wasted on him, playing time is a resource.

Barrero is not a developing prospect. He is a low floor/high ceiling lottery ticket that bats RH and plays + defense at SS and CF. Having him on the team over Siani keeps Noot out of CF(lower risk of injury) and Donnie off of SS.

We are not developing Jose Barrero!

Siani makes no sense. We are occupying a roster spot on a guy who cannot hit his weight to be a defensive replacement for one player(Walker). Scott and Noot do not need a defensive replacement.

Just as true now as it was 6 weeks ago.

But if Walker was hitting, Siani may still be on the team.

As I have said, out of the gate, it was all about JW, VS and LN in the outfield. They played the majority of April. And as guys perform or not, you reassess. In no way did I think Siani was going to be on the team all season if more offense was needed.

And it worked out. Barrero got 101 PA in AAA, so he's battled tested and fresh now on the MLB roster.

[rockondlouie]

sitting on the mlb bench is not a spot for a up and coming player. with burly that is 4 outfielders playing with Siani riding the pine and defensive sub very late. That is not a slot for a developing prospect , its a spot for rotting away utility guy etc.

We will see, if Siani plays alot, then it is an issue. He is a low ceiling guy who should not have resources wasted on him, playing time is a resource.

Barrero is not a developing prospect. He is a low floor/high ceiling lottery ticket that bats RH and plays + defense at SS and CF. Having him on the team over Siani keeps Noot out of CF(lower risk of injury) and Donnie off of SS.

We are not developing Jose Barrero!

Siani makes no sense. We are occupying a roster spot on a guy who cannot hit his weight to be a defensive replacement for one player(Walker). Scott and Noot do not need a defensive replacement.

Just as true now as it was 6 weeks ago.