Blues bashing is fashionable, but ...

[Harry York 37]

. Couple upgrades away from being a legit playoff contender.

lololololol

Yea this is some straight crazy talk here lol.

Typical keyboard captain cynicism.

You're right they are a couple pieces away.

Problem is, they're the hardest pieces to acquire.

A number one Center with raging fire in his belly, and bruising winger to bury 30-40 goals.
Both of whom need brutal and semi-legendary leadership capabilities.


Get ‘er done, Leery!

[dtkblueshockey]

Tuesday, team came back from two goals against WC champs; lost to SC champs by a goal in a final minute.

Those are no small feats. Couple upgrades away from being a legit playoff contender.

It's funny how many are afraid to be Blues fans on a Blues forum. I still think, if Thomas and Broberg don't get hurt, this is a VERY different season. Can't see how it's possible Broberg is 100%.

It's fine to also be upset about the team's collective performance. It's hard watching the team go from winning it all a few years ago to this.

[neverchange27]

Tuesday, team came back from two goals against WC champs; lost to SC champs by a goal in a final minute.

Those are no small feats. Couple upgrades away from being a legit playoff contender.

It's funny how many are afraid to be Blues fans on a Blues forum. I still think, if Thomas and Broberg don't get hurt, this is a VERY different season. Can't see how it's possible Broberg is 100%.

It's fine to also be upset about the team's collective performance. It's hard watching the team go from winning it all a few years ago to this.

Yes, but delusional, profoundly blind and ignorant laffy taffy wants all fans to sit around in a circle celebrating no matter what.

[sdaltons]

. Couple upgrades away from being a legit playoff contender.

lololololol

Yea this is some straight crazy talk here lol.

Typical keyboard captain cynicism.

You're right they are a couple pieces away.

Problem is, they're the hardest pieces to acquire.

A number one Center with raging fire in his belly, and bruising winger to bury 30-40 goals.
Both of whom need brutal and semi-legendary leadership capabilities.


Get ‘er done, Leery!

If anyone can do it, it's Leery!

[Chubbs0910]

. Couple upgrades away from being a legit playoff contender.

lololololol

Yea this is some straight crazy talk here lol.

Typical keyboard captain cynicism.

You're right they are a couple pieces away.

Problem is, they're the hardest pieces to acquire.

A number one Center with raging fire in his belly, and bruising winger to bury 30-40 goals.
Both of whom need brutal and semi-legendary leadership capabilities.


Get ‘er done, Leery!

Id settle for just the brutal and semi-legendary leadership capabilities at this point. I dont care if he's the 4th C.

[Chubbs0910]

The thing is many on hear call pointing out the obvious bashing.

It's no surprise where they are in standings. But if you said that before the year, as many did, you're a hater for some reason.

Odd logic.

It is possible to root for a team without lying to yourself about their potential.

[Younghopp1991]

I think you may be incorrect here. Let's see how he plays next year after he has time to fully recover before calling his ceiling. But, you may be correct. Time will tell.

I'm with you Aesa. Pontificating about the ceiling of a 23 year old D man after that injury is way way premature. I'd go so far as to call it nonsense.

Yeah im not buying that either. He has already shown us another level of his play. I highly doubt that injury is one that will prevent him from getting back to that level. I doubt hes anywhere near his ceiling. Hes still growing into his frame.

[dhsux]

I think you may be incorrect here. Let's see how he plays next year after he has time to fully recover before calling his ceiling. But, you may be correct. Time will tell.

I'm with you Aesa. Pontificating about the ceiling of a 23 year old D man after that injury is way way premature. I'd go so far as to call it nonsense.

Yeah im not buying that either. He has already shown us another level of his play. I highly doubt that injury is one that will prevent him from getting back to that level. I doubt hes anywhere near his ceiling. Hes still growing into his frame.

Bro will be better than good. He's already "good".

And this team just barely lost against two of the leagues top teams on a non call and a bounce.

[theograce]

Until the ship turns around, any bashing this team gets is warranted. Semi-skilled soft and lazy.

This is the softest team in franchise history.

Haven’t watched a full game in over 20 games.

Awful product

[blues2112]

TAFKAP, appreciate your post.

Despite the outcomes, Blues gave each conference's top team(based on SC last year) runs for their money. Great goaltending, great scoring chances, great drama.

Of course the team has weaknesses. No reasonable person could argue against that.

Team is on the way up, and I'm enjoying all the positive moments while being frustrated with the negative ones.

Posters who routinely mock others without evidence for their own arguments — if they even have arguments — simply baffle me.

And, like virtually every other thread, derailed in the same way by the same poster.

[neverchange27]

These poor, deluded, feverish, suffering fans. I really do feel for them. It must be horrible!

[TheJackBurton]

So to the tank and get top 5 picks here's a #4 overall we can just snatch up and get on the team. After all getting top 5 picks for a few years guarantees a cup:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jesse-puljujarvi

Now get er done Army and start booking the parade

[MiamiLaw]

So to the tank and get top 5 picks here's a #4 overall we can just snatch up and get on the team. After all getting top 5 picks for a few years guarantees a cup:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jesse-puljujarvi

Now get er done Army and start booking the parade

Has anyone said it “guarantees” a cup though? It’s just that, historically, it is basically a necessity. That’s an important distinction

[TheJackBurton]

So to the tank and get top 5 picks here's a #4 overall we can just snatch up and get on the team. After all getting top 5 picks for a few years guarantees a cup:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jesse-puljujarvi

Now get er done Army and start booking the parade

Has anyone said it “guarantees” a cup though? It’s just that, historically, it is basically a necessity. That’s an important distinction

They talk as if it is the only way.

They root for it as if it is actually a guarantee.

Does it hurt to have one? No

Does having a top 5 pick guarantee that they will be an elite player in the league? No and Puljujarvi is living proof of that. He's played with two generational centers and another (Draisatl) who is pretty (bleep) close and is very likely headed back to the European leagues after a few more stints with other clubs.

I don't have a problem with having a top 5 pick, but I refuse to believe in a "tank" as you are asking for problems. If a year goes south and the award is a top 5 pick fine so be it, but I will never, ever be on board with promoting losing and trading every player to ensure a top 5 pick. That kind of plan is for losers and rarely ever actually works.

[MiamiLaw]

So to the tank and get top 5 picks here's a #4 overall we can just snatch up and get on the team. After all getting top 5 picks for a few years guarantees a cup:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jesse-puljujarvi

Now get er done Army and start booking the parade

Has anyone said it “guarantees” a cup though? It’s just that, historically, it is basically a necessity. That’s an important distinction

They talk as if it is the only way.

They root for it as if it is actually a guarantee.

Does it hurt to have one? No

Does having a top 5 pick guarantee that they will be an elite player in the league? No and Puljujarvi is living proof of that. He's played with two generational centers and another (Draisatl) who is pretty (bleep) close and is very likely headed back to the European leagues after a few more stints with other clubs.

I don't have a problem with having a top 5 pick, but I refuse to believe in a "tank" as you are asking for problems. If a year goes south and the award is a top 5 pick fine so be it, but I will never, ever be on board with promoting losing and trading every player to ensure a top 5 pick. That kind of plan is for losers and rarely ever actually works.

Colorado had to tank. Tampa had to tank. Washington and Pittsburgh had to tank. Chicago had to tank. LA had to tank. Panthers had to tank. Even the Blues had to go through their Checketts years.

I don’t understand the “rarely works” opinion held by many here. It doesn’t always work sure, but it consistently does work for the teams that use the picks well.

It’s is very difficult to get an elite 1C or 1D without drafting them. They just don’t hit the market often

[TheJackBurton]

So to the tank and get top 5 picks here's a #4 overall we can just snatch up and get on the team. After all getting top 5 picks for a few years guarantees a cup:

https://puckpedia.com/player/jesse-puljujarvi

Now get er done Army and start booking the parade

Has anyone said it “guarantees” a cup though? It’s just that, historically, it is basically a necessity. That’s an important distinction

They talk as if it is the only way.

They root for it as if it is actually a guarantee.

Does it hurt to have one? No

Does having a top 5 pick guarantee that they will be an elite player in the league? No and Puljujarvi is living proof of that. He's played with two generational centers and another (Draisatl) who is pretty (bleep) close and is very likely headed back to the European leagues after a few more stints with other clubs.

I don't have a problem with having a top 5 pick, but I refuse to believe in a "tank" as you are asking for problems. If a year goes south and the award is a top 5 pick fine so be it, but I will never, ever be on board with promoting losing and trading every player to ensure a top 5 pick. That kind of plan is for losers and rarely ever actually works.

Colorado had to tank. Tampa had to tank. Washington and Pittsburgh had to tank. Chicago had to tank. LA had to tank. Panthers had to tank. Even the Blues had to go through their Checketts years.

I don’t understand the “rarely works” opinion held by many here. It doesn’t always work sure, but it consistently does work for the teams that use the picks well.

It’s is very difficult to get an elite 1C or 1D without drafting them. They just don’t hit the market often

Pittsburgh didn't tank, they won a lottery. Colorado was bad because Kroenke is a terrible owner and all his teams were bad. Washington went from a high, getting old, and then getting Ovechkin. Chicago is the one example of purposely tanking and it still took them close to a decade and had to win the lottery to go from #5 overall to #1 to get Kane, if that doesn't happen I doubt they win. When did LA ever officially tank? Panthers for a long time were terrible and not a destination team, once the state taxes were gone, then things changed.

A team getting old, drafting low, having to overpay their talent, and trading away all their draft picks isn't tanking, it's the design of the salary cap.

Yes we did, and it produced two top 5 picks and one, the #1 overall, has had a very ok career with most of it not wearing the Blue Note.

How did Vegas get their #1 center? How did they get their #1 forward? How did they get their top dmen? They didn't draft any of them (well in the normal sense)

What I don't get is acting like that's the only way to get those players. If the salary cap wouldn't be going up like it is the next 3 years then a lot of teams would be in trouble and the Blues would be in a great position to take advantage of it. However, just like in their history when they are playing their cards right, doing what they can, something comes along and upsets the plan.