Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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About time on Svanson.

Though curious to see if this means Liberatore is finally going to the bullpen
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Exciting
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Finally!

Svanson has been a trainwreck all season

Hence DFA long overdut too
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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why not use Hence in a trade package?
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Strummer Jones wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:10 am About time on Svanson.

Though curious to see if this means Liberatore is finally going to the bullpen
But I thought Hence was one of the premium young talents in the Cards organization? What happened? He was going to be with the mythical juggernaut that they're going to build from cost controlled minor league players. Just shows the whole lose, draft, lose, draft blah blah is untenable. Some young players here and there can really fit in and help but they shouldn't be the only focus when competing. You build a team with known talent and fill in the gaps with young talent. You don't build a team with young talent and fill in the gaps with veterans, especially waiver wire veterans. Then when a young star transcends, you open a spot for him by trading someone blocking him. I know it might seem like semantics but one way gives you the chance to compete year in and year out, the other way involves tons of losing.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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CCard wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:21 am
Strummer Jones wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:10 am About time on Svanson.

Though curious to see if this means Liberatore is finally going to the bullpen
But I thought Hence was one of the premium young talents in the Cards organization? What happened? He was going to be with the mythical juggernaut that they're going to build from cost controlled minor league players. Just shows the whole lose, draft, lose, draft blah blah is untenable. Some young players here and there can really fit in and help but they shouldn't be the only focus when competing. You build a team with known talent and fill in the gaps with young talent. You don't build a team with young talent and fill in the gaps with veterans, especially waiver wire veterans. Then when a young star transcends, you open a spot for him by trading someone blocking him. I know it might seem like semantics but one way gives you the chance to compete year in and year out, the other way involves tons of losing.
Hurt his shoulder
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:17 am why not use Hence in a trade package?
I think this is still very much on the table. How long after a DFA do you have to make the move? I can't remember.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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What a flop Hence turned out to be.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Strummer Jones wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:32 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:17 am why not use Hence in a trade package?
I think this is still very much on the table. How long after a DFA do you have to make the move? I can't remember.
Seven days until trade or waivers, so possible trade toss in
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:17 am why not use Hence in a trade package?
Nobody would trade anything for him well maybe cash considerations if someone was feeling generous
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Swuhgen wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:32 am What a flop Hence turned out to be.
I still think, health provided, he'd make a good BP arm
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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cosmo.kramer wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:29 am
CCard wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:21 am
Strummer Jones wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:10 am About time on Svanson.

Though curious to see if this means Liberatore is finally going to the bullpen
But I thought Hence was one of the premium young talents in the Cards organization? What happened? He was going to be with the mythical juggernaut that they're going to build from cost controlled minor league players. Just shows the whole lose, draft, lose, draft blah blah is untenable. Some young players here and there can really fit in and help but they shouldn't be the only focus when competing. You build a team with known talent and fill in the gaps with young talent. You don't build a team with young talent and fill in the gaps with veterans, especially waiver wire veterans. Then when a young star transcends, you open a spot for him by trading someone blocking him. I know it might seem like semantics but one way gives you the chance to compete year in and year out, the other way involves tons of losing.
Hurt his shoulder
Exactly. That's why you can't count on the ascension of young players to elevate your club alone. You have to buy premium talent when you can. You don't have to spend Dodger money, but you do have to spend money. Not gut payroll.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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CCard wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:21 am
Strummer Jones wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:10 am About time on Svanson.

Though curious to see if this means Liberatore is finally going to the bullpen
But I thought Hence was one of the premium young talents in the Cards organization? What happened? He was going to be with the mythical juggernaut that they're going to build from cost controlled minor league players. Just shows the whole lose, draft, lose, draft blah blah is untenable. Some young players here and there can really fit in and help but they shouldn't be the only focus when competing. You build a team with known talent and fill in the gaps with young talent. You don't build a team with young talent and fill in the gaps with veterans, especially waiver wire veterans. Then when a young star transcends, you open a spot for him by trading someone blocking him. I know it might seem like semantics but one way gives you the chance to compete year in and year out, the other way involves tons of losing.
Hence has been in the system six years. Long before the real emphasis on draft/develop.

His downfall was on a busted shoulder more than anything. Shoulders are tricky with pitchers. Sometimes you can fix them, sometimes it's pretty much the end.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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Hence is only throwing 90 mph, he is shot
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:17 am why not use Hence in a trade package?
The say never ‘assume’ but may be likely no other teams were going to give up a prospect for him. If there is a team (or teams) who could sign him they were thinking wait til St. Louis DFA and then approach Hence then.

PS probably view him as damaged goods with outside chance of making it but don’t give up talent to acquire him.
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Re: Mathews up, Svanson down, Hence DFA

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hmoss859 wrote: 01 Aug 2026 11:54 am Hence is only throwing 90 mph, he is shot
Funny still. Some pitchers never have 90 in them.