Looks Like Liam Doyle Is The Next...

[Red7]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

[Ozziesfan41]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

lol no he doesn’t look like the next liberatore not even close

[82birds]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

lol no he doesn’t look like the next liberatore not even close

agree Ozzie and I sure hope not.

[hornetfb52]

Just dumb

[Ozziesfan41]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

lol no he doesn’t look like the next liberatore not even close

agree Ozzie and I sure hope not.

Yea they basically skipped doyle straight to AA on top of him overhauling his secondary pitches which he’s still learning to master which is the reason for his control they also have him throwing those a lot to develop them. He said he started out with a fastball cutter and splitter they have added a curveball and sweeper. So people that think he’s a bust need to understand he went from college to AA if they had started him at A ball this season he would have dominated and people would be drooling over what he’s doing instead of saying he’s a bust. But he started out at AA and is learning two new pitches anyone thinking he was going to start out dominating under those circumstances were pipe dreaming. This season isn’t about results it’s about the process of learning those new pitches

[Talkin' Baseball]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

Curious about this. Please expand a little bit. I get the left handed pitcher thing, but what else?

[zoiks]

Liberatore’s issue has always been that his fastball is flat and hittable, while Doyle has a great fastball. I think we have yet another person here looking at a pitcher’s minor league stats and not taking into account that minor league pitchers are typically working on new pitches, which depresses their stats. This is exactly the case with Doyle.

[ggnoobs]

I am a little worried that Doyle "tough guy" shtick of cussing at batters and strutting around like a pro wrestler is going to wear out its welcome pretty fast. Especially if he comes up and get's knocked around. He has the tools, I just hope he doesn't get thrown onto the "head case" pile.

But a lot of good pitchers were head cases, like Chris Sale, Zach Greinke etc.

I don't see a comparison to Liberatore though.

[hmoss859]

LOL at the Doyle-Libby comp

One throws 100 with hop and has huge balls

One throws 80/95 and has no balls

Does that clear it up?

[Basil Shabazz]

You are the winner!

SAPOTD

[RamFan08NY]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

Curious about this. Please expand a little bit. I get the left handed pitcher thing, but what else?

Yea. Im waiting for the reasoning as well.

[Banner29]

I am a little worried that Doyle "tough guy" shtick of cussing at batters and strutting around like a pro wrestler is going to wear out its welcome pretty fast. Especially if he comes up and get's knocked around. He has the tools, I just hope he doesn't get thrown onto the "head case" pile.

But a lot of good pitchers were head cases, like Chris Sale, Zach Greinke etc.

I don't see a comparison to Liberatore though.

It will be must see tv watching him square off against PCA

I think those 2 alone would reignite some fire and bad blood in the rivalry

[Banner29]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

lol no he doesn’t look like the next liberatore not even close

agree Ozzie and I sure hope not.

Yea they basically skipped doyle straight to AA on top of him overhauling his secondary pitches which he’s still learning to master which is the reason for his control they also have him throwing those a lot to develop them. He said he started out with a fastball cutter and splitter they have added a curveball and sweeper. So people that think he’s a bust need to understand he went from college to AA if they had started him at A ball this season he would have dominated and people would be drooling over what he’s doing instead of saying he’s a bust. But he started out at AA and is learning two new pitches anyone thinking he was going to start out dominating under those circumstances were pipe dreaming. This season isn’t about results it’s about the process of learning those new pitches

Yeah I mean he was almost exclusively pitching heaters in college I’m not surprised this year is more of a “learning” year for him in a lot of ways.

Kind of like a year long spring training for him. Just work on your stuff and don’t worry as much about getting rocked.


He’s has a solid July btw

[WeeVikes]

You are the winner!

SAPOTD

Nice!

I have to remember this!

[rockondlouie]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

Care to expand and give your reasons why you'd make a call on a kid just a couple years out of college?

he's been working hard on his secondary pitches and trying to harness that high octane fastball, making mechanical and developmental adjustments along the way.

Once he optimizes pitch shapes on his breaking stuff and can bury his slider down and in to RHH'ers, hell be ready for St. Louis.

Sorta what the minor leagues are for, right?

Will he be a starter or will he be a high leverage reliever?

Time will tell but "the next Libby"?

C'mon man wait to make that call, if ever, after he's had some time in MLB.

[Absolut]

...Matthew Libratore. Think anyone would be willing to trade us a Randy Arozarena for him?

Curious about this. Please expand a little bit. I get the left handed pitcher thing, but what else?

Scouting box scores.