no quality major league Manager would take the job

[earp]

“I think this subject is fully addressed now.”

[bretto12]

NO, potential manager, would turn down a job as a MLB manager. Oli is the right guy for the job. The C T Geniuses all expected miracles with an old and under talented roster and the manager is an easy target. People seem to forget that he doesn't hit, pitch nor field...all he can do is put the players on the field.

[Jatalk]

I think it would be an appealing job. No playoff expectations for a year or two. Chance to build the team almost from ground up. If I had that plus some commitment about future spending and plans, I would jump at it.

I think Oli is there not because no one else will take the job but because Bloom thinks he is the right guy. Oli’s results are a reflection on Blooms decision.

[ramfandan]

The ‘job’ was never vacant so nobody has any idea who or how many would apply for the manager’s position.
There are only 30 positions in the MLB. To get offered any one if those jobs is quite an accomplishment for any basebsll coach .

Many quality people would love to have any of the 30

[ScotchMIrish]

Yost took KC to two world series and then presided over consecutive 100 loss seasons before stepping down. Can't win without the players. Still for an unemployed manager the lure of a MLB job has to be hard to turn down.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Absurd.

[Jeff Goldblum]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

[Pura Vida]

“I think this subject is fully addressed now.”

It's a good point without being sarcastic. The impression I've had of Oli is he is company man. And an intricate part of their plan. Also, they could move Oli to another position in the org and bring in another manager as needed. And they could eat the contract, and let him go, as I'm sure the dollar amount is reasonable. Also, I like the idea of a Pujols or Molina manager. But I don't think either would want to begin their career under these circumstances.

[dugoutrex]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

most of us supporting him just love seeing 'you' guys getting bent outta shape

[11WSChamps]

Francona took the job in Cincinnati.

When is the last time they spent any money or anywhere near a top tier payroll team?

[Jeff Goldblum]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

most of us supporting him just love seeing 'you' guys getting bent outta shape

I've barely watched a Cardinals game in 3 years. They are yesterday's news.

[Goldfan]

Probably for the first time in MLB with a club that is considered one of perennial contenders historically they have manager in place where it doesn’t seem to matter that he wins.
Go back to Whitey-WINNING
Torre- had a couple above .500 clubs with absolutely no support from ownership….didn’t win and was fired
LaRussa- Won the division ‘96, 2000….had a gap in between but was Tony LaRussa. The Marmot is nobody
Wins
93
71
83
78
And more than likely his record the next couple seasons will be under .500. BDW is allowing an absolute nobody to lead the Cardinals to 5 years of terrible Cards baseball.

[RamFan08NY]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

Yet, many here would give their right arm for Terry Francona, who won a whole 4 more games than Oli's cardinals last year.

[11WSChamps]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

Yet, many here would give their right arm for Terry Francona, who won a whole 4 more games than Oli's cardinals last year.

Not giving my right arm just responding to the OP.

And what were the payrolls of both teams in 2025?

[RamFan08NY]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

Yet, many here would give their right arm for Terry Francona, who won a whole 4 more games than Oli's cardinals last year.

Not giving my right arm just responding to the OP.

And what were the payrolls of both teams in 2025?

I dont think payroll has anything to do with it. Talent on the roster? Yes. Payroll doesn't win games, if it did, Mikolas would have been a stud last year.
Cardinals 2025 salary 144m
Reds 119m.

Relatively similar.

[11WSChamps]

Love all of the marmol defenders all of the sudden. The guy is still a deer in the headlights 3 years in.

Yet, many here would give their right arm for Terry Francona, who won a whole 4 more games than Oli's cardinals last year.

Not giving my right arm just responding to the OP.

And what were the payrolls of both teams in 2025?

I dont think payroll has anything to do with it. Talent on the roster? Yes. Payroll doesn't win games, if it did, Mikolas would have been a stud last year.
Cardinals 2025 salary 144m
Reds 119m.

Relatively similar.

Several people in the last few days have touted not spending money as a major reason no reputable manager would
take the Cardinals job.

The Reds are never going to be a top half payroll team.