If Marmol is that bad…..
Posted: 20 Feb 2026 00:52 am
For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
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That's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
I don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:59 amThat's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
No one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 01:48 amI don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:59 amThat's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
I don’t love Oliver and I don’t hate him. I don’t think the manager makes that much difference. LaRussa had some horrible seasons. Should he have been replaced?
This also applies to players like Nolan Gorman. You don’t like them, who should take his place? People hate Walker, who should take his place?
woofy25 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 06:16 amNo one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 01:48 amI don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:59 amThat's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
I don’t love Oliver and I don’t hate him. I don’t think the manager makes that much difference. LaRussa had some horrible seasons. Should he have been replaced?
This also applies to players like Nolan Gorman. You don’t like them, who should take his place? People hate Walker, who should take his place?
A. There is no manager worth anything that is taking the job with the cardinals in their current state
B. Oli isn’t nearly as bad as some think. They see bad record and have no choice but to say bad manager
C. No manager of the ‘23-‘25 rosters get the cardinals in the playoffs
D. The last two seasons, the cardinals have won more games than their statistics indicate they should have won. Hmmm
E. The overwhelming majority of the time, a bad roster equals bad results, regardless of the manager.
Be careful not to hire someone you can't fire.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 08:45 am My #1 has always been K. Cash (but they'd have to trade for him and the Rays may not even let him out of his contract).
Since that's a long shot I'd rather give Albert a shot, Yadi if Albert isn't available (Angels service contract?).
Apparently, that is the problem right now.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:13 amBe careful not to hire someone you can't fire.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 08:45 am My #1 has always been K. Cash (but they'd have to trade for him and the Rays may not even let him out of his contract).
Since that's a long shot I'd rather give Albert a shot, Yadi if Albert isn't available (Angels service contract?).
Oh, Pujols and Molina. There is literally no evidence those guys would be better. If you want the change b/c they're a name that will draw interest from the fanbase, then fine.Banner29 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 07:22 amwoofy25 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 06:16 amNo one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 01:48 amI don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:59 amThat's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
I don’t love Oliver and I don’t hate him. I don’t think the manager makes that much difference. LaRussa had some horrible seasons. Should he have been replaced?
This also applies to players like Nolan Gorman. You don’t like them, who should take his place? People hate Walker, who should take his place?
A. There is no manager worth anything that is taking the job with the cardinals in their current state
B. Oli isn’t nearly as bad as some think. They see bad record and have no choice but to say bad manager
C. No manager of the ‘23-‘25 rosters get the cardinals in the playoffs
D. The last two seasons, the cardinals have won more games than their statistics indicate they should have won. Hmmm
E. The overwhelming majority of the time, a bad roster equals bad results, regardless of the manager.
Pujols, Molina, Varitek, and even Joe Maddon are names on here that have been discussed EXTENSIVELY as replacements for the little Oompa Loompa. Schumakers name was brought up nearly every day before he got the job in Texas. Those are just a few guys to plenty of names posters have brought up.
The 3 of you are either oblivious to what goes on around here or just being purposely ignorant to it to better suit an agenda
woofy25 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 09:23 amOh, Pujols and Molina. There is literally no evidence those guys would be better. If you want the change b/c they're a name that will draw interest from the fanbase, then fine.Banner29 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 07:22 amwoofy25 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 06:16 amNo one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 01:48 amI don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.ramfandan wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:59 amThat's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026 00:52 am For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.
I don’t love Oliver and I don’t hate him. I don’t think the manager makes that much difference. LaRussa had some horrible seasons. Should he have been replaced?
This also applies to players like Nolan Gorman. You don’t like them, who should take his place? People hate Walker, who should take his place?
A. There is no manager worth anything that is taking the job with the cardinals in their current state
B. Oli isn’t nearly as bad as some think. They see bad record and have no choice but to say bad manager
C. No manager of the ‘23-‘25 rosters get the cardinals in the playoffs
D. The last two seasons, the cardinals have won more games than their statistics indicate they should have won. Hmmm
E. The overwhelming majority of the time, a bad roster equals bad results, regardless of the manager.
Pujols, Molina, Varitek, and even Joe Maddon are names on here that have been discussed EXTENSIVELY as replacements for the little Oompa Loompa. Schumakers name was brought up nearly every day before he got the job in Texas. Those are just a few guys to plenty of names posters have brought up.
The 3 of you are either oblivious to what goes on around here or just being purposely ignorant to it to better suit an agenda
Why would Varitek be better? Maybe he would be, but he's the "Player Information Coach" or "Game Planning Coordinator" with the Red Sox. By what measure would you base an argument that he would be a successful Manager? What are his coaching accomplishments that make you want him? And Joe Maddon? He's 72 and let a potential dynasty with the Cubs die on his watch, after 2016. He hasn't been a successful Manager for almost a decade. This cannot be a serious recommendation.
Seems to me that people are throwing nonsense at the wall.
I'd be fine with Pujols or Yadi, but by no means would I assume they would magically be better at managing games or the team as a whole. It would certainly be intriguing, and having one of their names in every Cardinals article and constantly talked about on local radio would be a boost to fan interest. A move like that certainly wouldn't have any basis in actual managerial skill.