The Farm System should be volatile for years

[hugeCardfan]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

[mattmitchl44]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

[BrockFloodMaris]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

Nice summary and analysis.

[2ninr]

They're flooding the system with pitching. Smart. Pitching is overvalued when you have to pay for it. Pitchers are injured at a higher rate than everyday players. When teams have to trade for pitching they overpay. They're like high yield savings accounts. When it's time to plug the holes in your everyday lineup, you have the equity to trade or sign for them. Like Matt said, we just have to trust that Bloom has picked the right guys to add to what we already had. It’s pretty clear the profile of those guys he wants.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m thinking volatile is to eccentric. More like electric burns, to fuel the fire type scenario. Raw power.

[An Old Friend]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

I would argue that they’re already back on track.

[ramfandan]

RHP Jurrangelo Cijntje (MLB's No. 91 prospect, per MLB Pipeline); OF Tai Peete (was Mariners' No. 11 prospect, now Cardinals' No. 15); OF Colton Ledbetter (was Rays' No. 24 prospect); Competitive Balance Round B picks (No. 68 overall, from Mariners; No. 72 overall, from Rays)


Qute the return

In the upcoming draft, the Cardinals will have six picks in the top 86 and all of the bonus money associated with them to give additional flexibility and a potential adrenaline shot to the farm system.

6 in top 86 picks ! Wow ! Shot in the arm is right !

[govman]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

Nice summary and analysis.

+1 don't forget that with all the prospects Bloom has accumulated, he can bundle some of them in future trades

[Carp4Cy]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

We certainly have the pitching raw talent. If there was ever a time we needed Dave Duncan to quickly turn these prospects and projects into producers…
On the hitting side, we still lack the raw material, esp RH. Maybe we plan to buy that or trade for established hitters with some of these prospects?

[hugeCardfan]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

I would argue that they’re already back on track.

Positive outlook. Lots of raw talent accumulated in a short time frame and a promising framework to develop that talent. I'll see us back on track as we begin to fill the many holes in the 26 man roster with proven talent.

Was not a proponent to trade Donovan (had bought into him his rookie year) but am thoroughly impressed with the haul Bloom got, to include 2 high draft picks this summer.

Sure, Bloom could stumble, but am really impressed with what he's accomplished so quickly. The frame work for a rapid ascenscion into NL prominence is all there.

[Cusecards]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

I would argue that they’re already back on track.

Positive outlook. Lots of raw talent accumulated in a short time frame and a promising framework to develop that talent. I'll see us back on track as we begin to fill the many holes in the 26 man roster with proven talent.

Was not a proponent to trade Donovan (had bought into him his rookie year) but am thoroughly impressed with the haul Bloom got, to include 2 high draft picks this summer.

Sure, Bloom could stumble, but am really impressed with what he's accomplished so quickly. The frame work for a rapid ascenscion into NL prominence is all there.

Hey....you can’t say he isn’t being active/aggressive.

[hugeCardfan]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

I would argue that they’re already back on track.

Positive outlook. Lots of raw talent accumulated in a short time frame and a promising framework to develop that talent. I'll see us back on track as we begin to fill the many holes in the 26 man roster with proven talent.

Was not a proponent to trade Donovan (had bought into him his rookie year) but am thoroughly impressed with the haul Bloom got, to include 2 high draft picks this summer.

Sure, Bloom could stumble, but am really impressed with what he's accomplished so quickly. The frame work for a rapid ascenscion into NL prominence is all there.

Hey....you can’t say he isn’t being active/aggressive.

No, you can't Cuse. I'd love to be in on discussions with his minor league talent evaluators on what they believe they got from Seattle and Tampa. I suspect that the draft picks got Chaim to move off the dime.

[rockondlouie]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

Exactly

[okcardfan]

I think the word "dynamic" is the one I would use.

[ramfandan]

Rebuilding the player development system required two things:

(1) an investment in people (scouts, coaches, trainers, analysts, etc.) and facilities (pitching labs, hitting labs, etc.) necessary to bring the Cardinals back near the top in being able to identify and help prospects reach their ceilings more often

and

(2) an accumulation of "raw material" (prospects) for that investment in people/facilities to work on

They were presumably already working on (1) back since they hired Bloom. This offseason they moved to trade Gray, Arenado, Contreras, and Donovan to do (2).

Now we hope that this regime has been very good at identifying the right prospects to put the Cardinals player development system to work on.

Nice summary and analysis.

+1 don't forget that with all the prospects Bloom has accumulated, he can bundle some of them in future trades

Heard rumors that DeWitt is in talks with Progressive Insurance for an advertising campaign focusing on Bloom 'bumdling' prospects . F
First commercial shows Flo consulting with Fredbird for the first 'bundle' deal !

[zuck698]

We have loaded the system with both hopeful and some quite promising talent. How much will depend on development success and chance health for a number of years.

As a glass half full guy, I expect some of these players to find traction and make up a significant portion of the 40 man roster on a yearly basis. Interestingly, our 40 man roster will become a focal point for years to come. So too the 26 man list.

The FO will need to become very agile separating the prospects from the suspects as well as agile at making good calculated trades for veteran talent. There can be little hesitation here or we'll be watching a revolving door of Rule 5 losses for failing to protect the talent.

We are in a cat bird's seat for significant trades, especially if a good number of our prospects begin to show on the farm. DeWitt will need to be open to adding salary as required and Chaim can't afford many mistakes. Mo undermined his credibility in recent years to the point of inaction. Chaim has a 3-4 year window to get this organization back on track.

Hope it's not wasted.

I would argue that they’re already back on track.

Positive outlook. Lots of raw talent accumulated in a short time frame and a promising framework to develop that talent. I'll see us back on track as we begin to fill the many holes in the 26 man roster with proven talent.

Was not a proponent to trade Donovan (had bought into him his rookie year) but am thoroughly impressed with the haul Bloom got, to include 2 high draft picks this summer.

Sure, Bloom could stumble, but am really impressed with what he's accomplished so quickly. The frame work for a rapid ascenscion into NL prominence is all there.

Hey....you can’t say he isn’t being active/aggressive.

No, you can't Cuse. I'd love to be in on discussions with his minor league talent evaluators on what they believe they got from Seattle and Tampa. I suspect that the draft picks got Chaim to move off the dime.

Bloom alluded to that very fact in his interview after the trade. He wouldn't do the trade without the draft picks being added in.