Cardinals Ranked 9th

[brock118]

ESPN had their farm system rankings and had the Cardinals at 9th FWIW
7. Wetherholt
19. Rodriguez
50. Doyle
93. Baez
98. Bernal

They also had 101-200 rankings:
150 Quinn Mathews
179 Tink Hence
193 Branden Clarke and he was sighted as being the top guy in the bunch to be an elite closer

[scoutyjones2]

Yawn.

[rockondlouie]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

[Hoosier59]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

[rockondlouie]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

First step is/was to re-build the farm system, this means from the ground up (hiring more coaches, instructors, health & welfare personnel, upgrading facilities, implementing a new system, ect....

Not sure why you mentioned Clarke.

[NYCardsFan]

Keith Law’s system rankings are out. He has the Cardinals ranked 11th.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/699828 ... ed_article

[TheFantasyStud]

That’s crazy that we can be ranked #1 by one and number 9 and 11 by others. Wow. I had higher expectations for Clarke ranking as well. Hope he’s more than a closer.

[BrockFloodMaris]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

[Ozziesfan41]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

Surprisingly a lot of people do. They wanted to keep complimentary players with nothing for them
To compliment lol

[CCard]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

And we see where he's going. No where.

[CCard]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

What makes you think they'll be competitive after a few years? The reality is they traded away their best pitcher and their best hitter for next to nothing. Just dumping salary for now reason other than the owner wants to save his pocket change. They should have kept Gray and Contreras, then went out and got another top tier starter( maybe two) and a run producing outfielder. Then tell Walker and Noot they have to fight it out for playing time. Put Gorman at third and tell him if he strikes out a third of the time he'll be replaced at the all-star break. This team could have competed for a playoff spot if they'd done that. But they gutted the team in preparation for the CBA strike which will most likely happen and to position themselves better for the draft. A disgrace is what it is.

[smilinjoefission]

So Quinn Mathews went from a take notice 200K season to #150 prospect ranking? He's 25 so there really is no longer a reason to wait any longer on him.

[Ozziesfan41]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

What makes you think they'll be competitive after a few years? The reality is they traded away their best pitcher and their best hitter for next to nothing. Just dumping salary for now reason other than the owner wants to save his pocket change. They should have kept Gray and Contreras, then went out and got another top tier starter( maybe two) and a run producing outfielder. Then tell Walker and Noot they have to fight it out for playing time. Put Gorman at third and tell him if he strikes out a third of the time he'll be replaced at the all-star break. This team could have competed for a playoff spot if they'd done that. But they gutted the team in preparation for the CBA strike which will most likely happen and to position themselves better for the draft. A disgrace is what it is.

But you think they would have been comparative after a few years if they kept arenado Contreras and gray lol. I mean sure you can they should have two all star and mvp level bats and a number one and two starter and all that who wouldn’t want that but it was never going to happen. And you actually think that telling Gorman and walker that they will suddenly be better as if they haven’t been trying? lol put down the bottle

[TopofthePerch]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

What makes you think they'll be competitive after a few years? The reality is they traded away their best pitcher and their best hitter for next to nothing. Just dumping salary for now reason other than the owner wants to save his pocket change. They should have kept Gray and Contreras, then went out and got another top tier starter( maybe two) and a run producing outfielder. Then tell Walker and Noot they have to fight it out for playing time. Put Gorman at third and tell him if he strikes out a third of the time he'll be replaced at the all-star break. This team could have competed for a playoff spot if they'd done that. But they gutted the team in preparation for the CBA strike which will most likely happen and to position themselves better for the draft. A disgrace is what it is.

But you think they would have been comparative after a few years if they kept arenado Contreras and gray lol. I mean sure you can they should have two all star and mvp level bats and a number one and two starter and all that who wouldn’t want that but it was never going to happen. And you actually think that telling Gorman and walker that they will suddenly be better as if they haven’t been trying? lol put down the bottle

Some posters don't like the rebuild. They can just say that instead of refusing to look at the actual reality of the situation. Also they weren't salary dumps. They paid down contracts to get rid of declining assets that weren't going to b part of the core. They got four pitchers that are actually intriguing and these moves were viewed as good moves by anyone that covers baseball. By the way a pure salary dump was Arenado but not Gray and Contreras.

[zoiks]

The amount of people that don’t realize Dewitt has dumped as much salary as he can in order to protect his precious profit while the tv deal is in limbo is too darn high.

This is not a rebuild. The team has received 0 top 100 prospects and only 1 top 200 prospect from dumping salary. Dewitt has chosen to turn the team into a clone of the Royals, Twins, Reds, etc. - crying poor as a small market while pocketing 10’s of millions of dollars of guaranteed profit every year.

And sure, the team has JJ Wetherholt coming, but at the same time, 2 picks later in the draft the Pirates drafted what is considered to be a generational talent. So the team likely screwed up the Wetherholt pick too.

[Ozziesfan41]

Nice

First step in this re-tool is to build up the farm system

The first step was cutting payroll! Clarke is the only one on the list that wasn't already in the Cardinals system.

Do you think it would have been better to keep Gray, WC and Nado around during a couple more non competitive years, clogging up the roster and keeping us in the sustained mediocrity that Mo made his legacy?

What makes you think they'll be competitive after a few years? The reality is they traded away their best pitcher and their best hitter for next to nothing. Just dumping salary for now reason other than the owner wants to save his pocket change. They should have kept Gray and Contreras, then went out and got another top tier starter( maybe two) and a run producing outfielder. Then tell Walker and Noot they have to fight it out for playing time. Put Gorman at third and tell him if he strikes out a third of the time he'll be replaced at the all-star break. This team could have competed for a playoff spot if they'd done that. But they gutted the team in preparation for the CBA strike which will most likely happen and to position themselves better for the draft. A disgrace is what it is.

But you think they would have been comparative after a few years if they kept arenado Contreras and gray lol. I mean sure you can they should have two all star and mvp level bats and a number one and two starter and all that who wouldn’t want that but it was never going to happen. And you actually think that telling Gorman and walker that they will suddenly be better as if they haven’t been trying? lol put down the bottle

Some posters don't like the rebuild. They can just say that instead of refusing to look at the actual reality of the situation. Also they weren't salary dumps. They paid down contracts to get rid of declining assets that weren't going to b part of the core. They got four pitchers that are actually intriguing and these moves were viewed as good moves by anyone that covers baseball. By the way a pure salary dump was Arenado but not Gray and Contreras.

Oh I agree with you 100%