Zack Thompson

[brock118]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

[TheFantasyStud]

Great move! Rooting for him.

[Carp4Cy]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

[cardstatman]

When we trade Romero, there won't be a whole lot of competition for LH reliever.

[mattmitchl44]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

I assume because the Cardinals have already decided that Doyle has a zero percent chance of being on the Opening Day roster (he needs to be in the minors starting every fifth day), and the rest of those guys have at least somewhat more than a zero percent chance of filling some role on the OD roster.

[Stlcardsblues]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

My understanding was that since he was on the IL the entire year he was allowed to be removed off the 40-man without being DFAed. The original stories said he had to be DFAed, but then they figured out that the Cardinals didn’t need to.

[brock118]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

My understanding was that since he was on the IL the entire year he was allowed to be removed off the 40-man without being DFAed. The original stories said he had to be DFAed, but then they figured out that the Cardinals didn’t need to.

Yeah I know there was a lot of information saying he was still with us and saying he was a free agent. But if you look at his transactions it shows he was a free agent. There never seemed to be any clarification at the time.

[3dender]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

[BrockFloodMaris]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Agreed. Manage the hype and also tamp down his ego just a bit.

[Cardinals4Life]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Nothing wrong with bringing him to ST, though. Just for the experience. JJW got invited last year. I think it can be good for them.

[3dender]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Nothing wrong with bringing him to ST, though. Just for the experience. JJW got invited last year. I think it can be good for them.

imo the risk outweighs the benefit... i've never heard of a prospect flaming out bc they didn't get invited to ST soon enough.

[redbirdfan51]

Cards don't want to put pressure on Doyle. He hasn't pitched one inning professionally. Give him some time to settle in.

[Cardinals4Life]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Nothing wrong with bringing him to ST, though. Just for the experience. JJW got invited last year. I think it can be good for them.

imo the risk outweighs the benefit... i've never heard of a prospect flaming out bc they didn't get invited to ST soon enough.

What's the risk, though?

[scoutyjones2]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

The hype is all on CT. Scouts pegged him as a reliever

[StlMike1969]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Nothing wrong with bringing him to ST, though. Just for the experience. JJW got invited last year. I think it can be good for them.

imo the risk outweighs the benefit... i've never heard of a prospect flaming out bc they didn't get invited to ST soon enough.

What's the risk, though?

I agree with others here on Doyle. ST is a chance to for fringe guys to get a good look at by staff in person. Management has a good idea going into spring who will be on their roster. What they like to know is if there is a player that is going to force their hand if others fall down. At the least they know who gets called up when the time comes, and who gets DFA'ed when that time comes too. Someone like Doyle is a no brainer that he will be on the staff at some point by virtue of his pick and history. What they need him to do now is settle in as an every day pitcher, get routines down and comfort with how he is going to proceed as a pitcher. ST invite for him will just muddy the water and give him the impression he is sooner rather than later. He will not focus on the little things he needs to do now for success later. Wetherholt got an invite under Moz's leadership. Moz proved he did not have a good idea on development. He kept searching for the "Now" answer rather than the concern of a players development in stages. Wetherholt also had a very good grasp on hitting coming in and he proved that throughout the year. His game is a lot more refined and polished. Doyle has to answer the question about where is he going to be at the end of the day. Starter, Relief or closer. Scouting reports state that he apparently needs to refine his mechanics to some degree to handle long term starter duties. So to answer the questions there are questions that need answered first before he is invited. He will get the chance to move up the ladder this year and if all goes well will be at next years ST once the lockout ends.

[Cardinals4Life]

Cardinals also re-signed Zack Thompson to minor league deal. Gets a spring training invite. Assigned to Memphis.

Meanwhile Liam Doyle doesn't have a ST invite. Law says he could promote to ML this year if things go well. How is he not getting a look in ST when guys like Packy Naughton, Thompson, Koperniak do? Weren't we supposed to lose those guys to the rule 5/dfa since the roster was so clogged?

Bc they're trying to manage the hype around him, which is pretty refreshing considering what happened to Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson, Liberatore, etc.

Nothing wrong with bringing him to ST, though. Just for the experience. JJW got invited last year. I think it can be good for them.

imo the risk outweighs the benefit... i've never heard of a prospect flaming out bc they didn't get invited to ST soon enough.

What's the risk, though?

I agree with others here on Doyle. ST is a chance to for fringe guys to get a good look at by staff in person. Management has a good idea going into spring who will be on their roster. What they like to know is if there is a player that is going to force their hand if others fall down. At the least they know who gets called up when the time comes, and who gets DFA'ed when that time comes too. Someone like Doyle is a no brainer that he will be on the staff at some point by virtue of his pick and history. What they need him to do now is settle in as an every day pitcher, get routines down and comfort with how he is going to proceed as a pitcher. ST invite for him will just muddy the water and give him the impression he is sooner rather than later. He will not focus on the little things he needs to do now for success later. Wetherholt got an invite under Moz's leadership. Moz proved he did not have a good idea on development. He kept searching for the "Now" answer rather than the concern of a players development in stages. Wetherholt also had a very good grasp on hitting coming in and he proved that throughout the year. His game is a lot more refined and polished. Doyle has to answer the question about where is he going to be at the end of the day. Starter, Relief or closer. Scouting reports state that he apparently needs to refine his mechanics to some degree to handle long term starter duties. So to answer the questions there are questions that need answered first before he is invited. He will get the chance to move up the ladder this year and if all goes well will be at next years ST once the lockout ends.

I agree with most of this. However, I don't think an invite to ST would give him that impression. JJ last year knew he wasn't making the team, but simply used it to be a sponge and take in all things MLB.