Dylan Carlson to Cubs?

[opti mist]

Minor league deal reported.

[OldRed]

Still a young man. Who knows, might be a good signing.

[RamFan08NY]

:Cubs seem to do good with Cardinals castoffs. Wisdom, Kelly, now Carlson?

[TheJackBurton]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

[cardsrmyteam]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

AMEN! Hopefully the change in POBO can stop this trend.

[12xu]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

[TheJackBurton]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

[3dender]

:Cubs seem to do good with Cardinals castoffs. Wisdom, Kelly, now Carlson?

Kelly wasn't a Cardinals castoff he was a DBacks castoff... Kelly was the centerpiece of a trade for an MVP-level player, it was known he was good at the time, just a necessary sacrifice.

[Absolut]

Had such high hopes for the kid after that padres series.

[12xu]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

Please explain how exactly the Cardinal org. messed with his mechanics and swing, and back this up with links.

[TheJackBurton]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

Please explain how exactly the Cardinal org. messed with his mechanics and swing, and back this up with links.

oh yes sir I'll get right on your demands

[12xu]

:Cubs seem to do good with Cardinals castoffs. Wisdom, Kelly, now Carlson?

Kelly wasn't a Cardinals castoff he was a DBacks castoff... Kelly was the centerpiece of a trade for an MVP-level player, it was known he was good at the time, just a necessary sacrifice.

Kelly had an unsustainable start to the '25 season, which many players achieve when moving to the "friendly confines". By July 21 his slash line was .276/.374/.524/.898 with 13 HR and 34 RBI. After that he expectedly regressed with .214/.274/.302/.576 with 4 HR and 16 RBI the rest of the season.
Kelly will not repeat his early '25 season surge in '26.

[12xu]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

Please explain how exactly the Cardinal org. messed with his mechanics and swing, and back this up with links.

oh yes sir I'll get right on your demands

No demands, but if you are going to make such accusations, it would be only fair to present some proof. I agree that the Cardinals made some mistakes handling Jordan Walker, but I do not think they did the same kind of mishandling of Dylan Carlson. If you or anyone else would like to show some proof of that, I would be happy to admit my ignorance of such information.

[OldRed]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

Please explain how exactly the Cardinal org. messed with his mechanics and swing, and back this up with links.

oh yes sir I'll get right on your demands

No demands, but if you are going to make such accusations, it would be only fair to present some proof. I agree that the Cardinals made some mistakes handling Jordan Walker, but I do not think they did the same kind of mishandling of Dylan Carlson. If you or anyone else would like to show some proof of that, I would be happy to admit my ignorance of such information.

It seems some have forgotten the injuries and how the Cardinals handled them or didn't handle them.

Carlson opened the 2022 season as the club's starting right fielder. In late May, he was placed on the injured list with a hamstring injury.[34] He was activated in early June.[35] Carlson hit the final of a record-tying four consecutive home runs between teammates on July 2, 2022, the 11th such occurrence in major league history. At Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, Nolan Arenado, Nolan Gorman, Juan Yepez and Carlson all homered off Phillies starter Kyle Gibson with two outs in the first inning. It was the first time that the Cardinals had accomplished the feat, and the first time that it occurred in the first inning.[36] In early September, Carlson was placed on the injured list with a thumb sprain before being activated a little over a week later.[37] Over 432 at-bats in 128 games, he slashed .236/.316/.380 with eight home runs, 42 RBI, and 30 doubles.[38]

In 2023, Carlson played in 76 games for St. Louis, batting .219/.318/.333 with five home runs, 27 RBI, and three stolen bases.[39] On August 12, 2023, Carlson was placed on the injured list with a left oblique strain and left ankle injury.[40] On September 13, manager Oliver Marmol announced that Carlson would undergo season–ending surgery on his left ankle.[41]

2024

Carlson in 2024
Carlson led the team in Spring Training with three home runs and 13 RBIs, before a collision with right fielder Jordan Walker with both chasing a fly ball on March 25. Carlson suffered an injury to his left shoulder after falling hard on the warning track after the collision, also hurting his hip and ankle.[42] An MRI exam that night revealed damage to his left shoulder, putting him on the IL for a few weeks.[43] In 59 games for the Cardinals, he batted .198/.275/.240 with no home runs and 11 RBI.

[The Nard]

I've only seen him play while at Springfield, as a top prospect. He was a line-drive gap hitting machine in that game, and displayed a strong, accurate arm from RF. Of course, that was AA pitching, but whatever happened?

[C-Unit]

He is the perfect example of how a team can completely destroy a promising young players career. They messed with his mechanics and his swing way too much, then the injury and he has never come close to his potential.

The Cardinals did not destroy Carlson's career. How do you explain Tampa and Baltimore's failure to fix him? He has never come close to his potential, but that is almost entirely his own fault.

Sure some of it his fault, but if a player isn't properly in his younger years it's extremely rare for them to magically turn it around in their later years.

Please explain how exactly the Cardinal org. messed with his mechanics and swing, and back this up with links.

oh yes sir I'll get right on your demands

No demands, but if you are going to make such accusations, it would be only fair to present some proof. I agree that the Cardinals made some mistakes handling Jordan Walker, but I do not think they did the same kind of mishandling of Dylan Carlson. If you or anyone else would like to show some proof of that, I would be happy to admit my ignorance of such information.

It seems some have forgotten the injuries and how the Cardinals handled them or didn't handle them.

Carlson opened the 2022 season as the club's starting right fielder. In late May, he was placed on the injured list with a hamstring injury.[34] He was activated in early June.[35] Carlson hit the final of a record-tying four consecutive home runs between teammates on July 2, 2022, the 11th such occurrence in major league history. At Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, Nolan Arenado, Nolan Gorman, Juan Yepez and Carlson all homered off Phillies starter Kyle Gibson with two outs in the first inning. It was the first time that the Cardinals had accomplished the feat, and the first time that it occurred in the first inning.[36] In early September, Carlson was placed on the injured list with a thumb sprain before being activated a little over a week later.[37] Over 432 at-bats in 128 games, he slashed .236/.316/.380 with eight home runs, 42 RBI, and 30 doubles.[38]

In 2023, Carlson played in 76 games for St. Louis, batting .219/.318/.333 with five home runs, 27 RBI, and three stolen bases.[39] On August 12, 2023, Carlson was placed on the injured list with a left oblique strain and left ankle injury.[40] On September 13, manager Oliver Marmol announced that Carlson would undergo season–ending surgery on his left ankle.[41]

2024

Carlson in 2024
Carlson led the team in Spring Training with three home runs and 13 RBIs, before a collision with right fielder Jordan Walker with both chasing a fly ball on March 25. Carlson suffered an injury to his left shoulder after falling hard on the warning track after the collision, also hurting his hip and ankle.[42] An MRI exam that night revealed damage to his left shoulder, putting him on the IL for a few weeks.[43] In 59 games for the Cardinals, he batted .198/.275/.240 with no home runs and 11 RBI.

There were injuries but he might not have actually been that good. He couldn't hit righties which was a big limitation to his game. So he was ultimately a weak-side platoon piece. His breakout minor league season came during the 2019 Juice Ball season and that was really the only time he showed great results during his entire professional career. The idea of a good hitting switch-hitting CF would have been great if he could actually hit righthanders.