Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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Per reports, Cards and Mariners have had lengthy trade discussions on Donovan deal.
Not sure what their farm system can provide, but this appears to be the most likely deal.
We shall see.
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Re: Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
That's a hard get, but that is where it needs to start.

Their top 2 prospects are Colt Emerson and Kade Anderson. I will leave them alone.

Their next 5 prospects are;
3) Lazaro Montes
4) Ryan Sloan
5) Michael Arroyo
6) Jonny Farmelo
7) Jurrangelo Cijntje

If I'm trading with the Mariners, I have to come out with 2 of these, even if I have to add JoJo Romero to get it done. I also want 1 pitcher and 1 hitter. I don't really want Farmelo, as he has spent too much time injured.

So if I get the better pitcher (Sloan), I would accept the lesser hitter (Arroyo). If I get the lesser pitcher (Cijntje) I want the better hitter (Montes). If another team has not offered a better package, I could accept one of those deals.
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Re: Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
How about Sloan and Sundstrom
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I would also be interested in their young pitchers that have already pitched in the majors: Logan Evans, Emerson Hancock, Bryce Miller. Evans is only 24, Hancock and Miller 26. Could be combined with some of the prospects mentioned.
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Re: Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:17 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
That's a hard get, but that is where it needs to start.

Their top 2 prospects are Colt Emerson and Kade Anderson. I will leave them alone.

Their next 5 prospects are;
3) Lazaro Montes
4) Ryan Sloan
5) Michael Arroyo
6) Jonny Farmelo
7) Jurrangelo Cijntje

If I'm trading with the Mariners, I have to come out with 2 of these, even if I have to add JoJo Romero to get it done. I also want 1 pitcher and 1 hitter. I don't really want Farmelo, as he has spent too much time injured.

So if I get the better pitcher (Sloan), I would accept the lesser hitter (Arroyo). If I get the lesser pitcher (Cijntje) I want the better hitter (Montes). If another team has not offered a better package, I could accept one of those deals.
good info TB
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Re: Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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DwaininAztec wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:20 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
How about Sloan and Sundstrom
It would just depend on how the deal plays out, what other players are involved from both teams.
I just wish the Bregman thing would get decided! I sick and tired of him holding everything up, for two years now!
I really don’t understand the infatuation with him either? He's not worth the money he's asking for, and he's shown he has no team loyalty, it’s all about the money! The next team to give him an opt out is going to see him do just that!
To me, for the money it will cost to sign him, there are a lot better options available! Bregman and Boras just love all the attention they’re getting and get a big kick out of holding everything else up. I wish every team would just move on to other things and leave them both dangling in La La Land!
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Re: Mariners seem to be the trade partner for Donovan--Is that good or bad

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Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:33 am
DwaininAztec wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:20 am
Hoosier59 wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 10:27 am They would be my third or fourth choice, but they do have a good farm system and could put together a very good package for Donovan- if they would. They are notorious prospect hoarders.
For me it starts with Sloan, and ends there if they refuse to include him.
How about Sloan and Sundstrom
It would just depend on how the deal plays out, what other players are involved from both teams.
I just wish the Bregman thing would get decided! I sick and tired of him holding everything up, for two years now!
I really don’t understand the infatuation with him either? He's not worth the money he's asking for, and he's shown he has no team loyalty, it’s all about the money! The next team to give him an opt out is going to see him do just that!
To me, for the money it will cost to sign him, there are a lot better options available! Bregman and Boras just love all the attention they’re getting and get a big kick out of holding everything else up. I wish every team would just move on to other things and leave them both dangling in La La Land!
It's all about the money for owners, too. Not sure why it shouldn't be all about the money for players. Tradition is peer pressure from dead people - loyalty is similar, but doesn't require the peers to be dead.
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The names that have been mentioned in credible news reports were Cinjinte and Montes. Not that it would be both of them (though it was sort of implied), but those were the actual names reported on. It seemed like the majority on here wouldn't be in-favor of that deal. My opinion is that it's time to take a look in the mirror and realize that Brendan Donovan isn't Juan Soto, and we should very seriously consider a deal like the one above.
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TraveledLessRoad wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:45 am The names that have been mentioned in credible news reports were Cinjinte and Montes. Not that it would be both of them (though it was sort of implied), but those were the actual names reported on. It seemed like the majority on here wouldn't be in-favor of that deal. My opinion is that it's time to take a look in the mirror and realize that Brendan Donovan isn't Juan Soto, and we should very seriously consider a deal like the one above.
That may be their best offer, and maybe that's ok, but it would be interesting to know what other offers are on the table. The Cardinals could absolutely overplay their hand here. Take a good deal if you can get it, but in the end it would be better to keep him than to take a bad deal.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:51 am
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:45 am The names that have been mentioned in credible news reports were Cinjinte and Montes. Not that it would be both of them (though it was sort of implied), but those were the actual names reported on. It seemed like the majority on here wouldn't be in-favor of that deal. My opinion is that it's time to take a look in the mirror and realize that Brendan Donovan isn't Juan Soto, and we should very seriously consider a deal like the one above.
That may be their best offer, and maybe that's ok, but it would be interesting to know what other offers are on the table. The Cardinals could absolutely overplay their hand here. Take a good deal if you can get it, but in the end it would be better to keep him than to take a bad deal.
I 100% agree with this. I'm still not against keeping Donovan, by any means. And I also do think there are other offers on the table. All of that said, I think if their (the Cardinals) expectation for an "ask" were being met, a deal would be done.
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TraveledLessRoad wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:55 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:51 am
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 29 Dec 2025 11:45 am The names that have been mentioned in credible news reports were Cinjinte and Montes. Not that it would be both of them (though it was sort of implied), but those were the actual names reported on. It seemed like the majority on here wouldn't be in-favor of that deal. My opinion is that it's time to take a look in the mirror and realize that Brendan Donovan isn't Juan Soto, and we should very seriously consider a deal like the one above.
That may be their best offer, and maybe that's ok, but it would be interesting to know what other offers are on the table. The Cardinals could absolutely overplay their hand here. Take a good deal if you can get it, but in the end it would be better to keep him than to take a bad deal.
I 100% agree with this. I'm still not against keeping Donovan, by any means. And I also do think there are other offers on the table. All of that said, I think if their (the Cardinals) expectation for an "ask" were being met, a deal would be done.
I suspect they have several ways they would be willing to go (acceptable offers) and because of the volume of suitors are just holding off a bit to see if someone blinks and yields to their ask. They should circle back to teams we haven't heard about for awhile before we pull the trigger and just see if there is something new out there. Detroit, Kansas City, Cleveland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Yankees, etc... I would be shocked if they aren't doing this presently.
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I hope (and kind of expect) that that's the case
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It's a big move for both teams involved. I think we may wind up with a deal none of us expect. The least likely is that he stays imo.
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Mariners are a possible fit, certainly.
So are the Dodgers, A's, Yankees, Red Sox, and half a dozen others.
The CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION, if Bloom is dead set on making the mistake of trading Donovan this off-season, is to deal him for the best RH hitting outfield bat being offered in the return package.
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